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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_hkn7nLTk&NR=1

Hey John,

Haven't seen Snatchum on the open forum in a few days. Re: your post, I heard about GM. Im sure its one of the many "surprises" yet to come. I see so many empty houses and commercial buildings, seems like more everyday. We need a whole new system now. Which of course is exactly what they want people to think. "This Sovereignty thing didnt work out" lets globalize everything. We had a damn good thing when the Constitution was the law of the land. We have been hijacked and movements like exposing Obama for the Non-citizen that he is and our States declaring their sovereignty is exactly what we all need to get behind. You are right, we all need to prepare for the worst and fight like hell for the best. We don't hear from Snatchum by tomorrow, I'll send a message his way to make sure all is well. til next time.....

Snatchum
Glad you're back. You are an inspiration, I have prepared some, but not nearly as I should. Putting it all together really does make you think. As I research and read and watch it seems like things are moving so quickly, and yet sometimes I think maybe its just me being more awake to it all. Things are progessing though, GM going under, the G20, Bilderberg coming up soon, North Korea, Russia, China and all still going on in the Middle East. All the Globalization buzz words in just about everything you read or watch! Plan for the best and prepare for the worst is my new motto. Glad to see you've been productive, we can all learn something from your efforts. I have been working on our garden or what will be a garden anyway. need to step it up though. Thanks for the motivation.

I wonder what will come of this? Wasn'T this tried with Cheney to no avail?

Obama Indicted??

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A message to all members of 9-12 Project ~ Asheville, NC

Barack Obama INDICTED By Grand Jury March 28th !!!
At approx. 4:15 p.m.
March 28th in the city of Stockbridge Ga.
the people of Georgia returned an Indictment against Barack Hussein Obama!
Stockbridge, Georgia- The questions over the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to occupy his current position as President of the United States continue to be raised. After being presented with evidence in the matter, a citizens' grand jury convened by Carl Swensson in Georgia has returned an indictment against Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka Barry Sutoro.

Reportedly the sealed indictment, scheduled to be delivered to prosecutors on Monday, includes counts of fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. "It's a done deal, and the people of the State of Georgia demand action on this matter," said Carl Swensson after the grand jury proceedings had finished. "I can't comment on this other than to say that the sealed indictment will be delivered to prosecutors on Monday."
Obviously, where this goes remains to be seen, but it's one more sign that citizens are waking up and demanding that the allegations of fraud and forgery surrounding the eligibility of Obama be investigated.
http://www.evilconservativeonline.co...zen-grand.html

Citizens sitting as Federal Grand Jurors are the fourth branch of the United States government.

The Citizens of Georgia have proudly stood up to our corrupt officials and have exercised this right.

At approx. 4:15 p.m. March 28th in the city of Stockbridge Ga. the people of Georgia returned an Indictment against Barack Hussein Obama; 25 Jurists, duly sworn in, heard testimony and in a unanimous vote, indicted Obama. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theevil...ervative-Radio

TAKE HEART PATRIOTS are efforts are working!
NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER!
Lori Patriot

Visit 9-12 Project ~ Asheville, NC at: http://9-12projectashevillenc.ning.com
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i got theses files from a video game!!!!
check them out. il post more later.

it takes time to write it down so here we go.

the first one is a confidential e-mail fallowed by internal affairs and information services (IAIS) investigation note on opperation DESERT RAT.

ps: i am juste copy-pasting this e-mail. i have nothing to do with it.---talking to google.

"From: TheFamous1@anomalies.com (can't say if this e-mail is valid and in use)
Sent: tuesday,september 14 1994 at 12:26 AM

TO: dizzeguy@cosmier.org (i did not check that one as well)
Subject: They're Here.

Dizz,

Chicken is in the pot, Orders are in my friend...

We have to go ahead to flood the internet. I sent you a bunch of pies yesterday that we made, check your email. Also there is a tons of .AVI and .WAV files on your FTP server for you to use.
Ask accident if you don't have access to the FTP. Get those out to every existing Alien/ Ufo/ conspiracy etc...sites out there that you can find. I whant you to hit every message boards, email
every webmasters...all that. The word for the day is "Saturation".

Also, pull the crew from whatever they are working on and get everybody on making new websites with all these "new found evidences" that i'm supplying you with. Use the new stuff that surfaced
from A51 (the real stuff) that's out there too. We whant it to mix in with the stuff we created so that they become synonymous with each other. The real stuff can be found on our FTP as well, in the
// incoming/ hoax folder.

if the findings from A51 get proven to be true as it looks like they are going to, well... Let's just say that would not be good for us. The plan is to add all these "evidences" that we created to the new
evidences that surfaced_and pretty much discredit the whole She-Bang. the subtities in the stuff that we created are just that subtle. it will take a while for whoever investigates this to realize that they
are phonies, but there there are dead giveaways hidden in each and every one of them. With that in mind, there will be some time to generate some hype before this whole thing (including the real stuff) gets disregarded as fake.

So get to work.

Save this email and i'll kill you myself. -----to google: yes it was in the original e-mail.

-FA"






and now the IAIS investigation report on opperation desert rat.

"From: Internal Affairs and Information Services (IAIS)
Sent: Thursday july 18 1995 at 09:45 AM

Subject:Urgent: Opperation Desert Rat.
Importance: High.

It has come to our attention that rogue agents under assumed names have begun to use the internet as an underground channel for distribution of classified information as it relates to our involvement with
Extraterrestrial Biologic Entities (EBE).To rectify this situation, we authorize the immediate creation of false personalities who will be logged onto major UFO message boards and internet relay chat sessions. Once these internet personalities have established themselves, websites supposedly created by them will go "live" with the sole purpose of discrediting and providing humourous coverage of the unauthorized information. A second set of personalities will also be created to serve as extremist UFO researchers. These people will claim credit for the unautorized information and transform it using absurd exagerations to appear hoax-like and nonsensical in a effort to further invalidate the significance of this data to the general public.

National Security Information Directorate.

this may contain information exempt from mandatory disclosure under the Freedom of Information ACT. (FOIA)" -----hey google its not me that wrote it. i am just copy pasting it. ok?



Air Force Flight Test Center Detachement 3 (AFFTC DET.3)

employes are are listed under "Pitman Station Nevada"

employes must never use these term to define their working place.
"Area 51, Dreamland, Watertown, The Ranch, Paradise Ranch, Shangrila, The Box, Red Square and Skunkworks
It is accepted to use"GroomLake" under informational refference how ever the establishment would rather prefer all employes to stick to the real name.(AFFTC DET.3)



il post you some more later. next will be. HAARP truth. and KGB found a secret alien saucer deep 200 feets below a mountain.

of corse i am refering to the grand monkey bowing down.i want to throw up just thinking about it. it sure is a good thing that it is not a real president. yae i said it.it it is not even human as far as i am concernd.

RE: Aliens

Illuminati, hijacked governments, aliens....They are all the same. The ENEMY! Anything that threatens our freedoms or our very existence is the enemy. Is it possible? Sure it is. I just hope they aren't bulletproof!

I LIVED IN HENDERSON NEVADA FOR AWHILE AND THERE WERE SOME PRETTY STRANGE SOUNDS THERE LATE AT NIGHT. THE ONLY WAY I CAN DISCRIBE THE SOUND IS LIKE A GIRO, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENCE. NEVER SAW ANYTHING THOUGH.

For those of you that have just joined us on the open forum,

WELCOME!

Thank you for all the valuable information you are sharing. This is the People's Website and your input is greatly appreciated. If we can help you in defending freedom, please do not hesitate to let us know. Thank you all for being here.

Re Stand United!

Thank You for the Welcome. I've been here for awhile and read it Daily but just got around to opening my Mouth. Looks like Snatchem lives the closest to me so I will be sending him a personal e-mail to leave my phone #. I think I read that you have a meeting site. I would like to be included. Thanks Again.....

d please do not buy it! it may be a rip off the gov and assama are going to take great care of you and youre family i assure you the us marines will see to it yiu get 300000 marines to secure you if it hits the fan. theese things on theese sites are all made up i know for a fact because i have personaly filmed about 25 of them and loaded them up on you tube just to see waht would happen. do you raelly think that the gov is going to turn on us? no there is no money in it follow the money they need us to pay taxes so that they have nice vacation homes and the like. there are a lot of conspiracy thearosits out here that all need lithium. please do not buy guns ammo or food. the ammo and gun mfgs are dissiminating this info to sell guns and ammo. do not fall for it.

I read an interesting article on www.survivalblog.com/nickles.html This article talks about saving nickles....all nickles... and why. It made sence to me. Check it out!!

Lester

ref c evens i was being sarcastic. you will soon see if you hang around here that i am a bit dry on the humor and a little blunt at times. anybody who belives as that fello we do not need so i dont want him buying ammo and guns so when they come to take him to the fema camp they dont beat him up. i am only looking out for his saftey and well being. you see now i am sure. goble goble. alex is my man i listen faithfully some times he too pisses me off but there is none better.

fckobama fck thepope and the nwo

sure has been a lot going on since I've been sick...

whooo...i am now in state of ...oh shit, what the hell do i do now...I am not completely prepared...I am trying but with having to care for mom...it just takes all my energy.I only have a part of my supplies....I want everything in plastic totes like some one else...I guess that was snatchum...was talking about.
It's all moving soooo damn fast...it does seem as if they are trying to keep us in a whirlwind so we can't keep up with them and what they are doing to us.I had a few days rest but still not feeling well...I know its some to do with the chem-trails...they have been bad....oh well, i will do my best..thats all i can do. We dont have a meeting place in arizona...is any ones got a clue...or we can arange to meet here at my house..since I am in a fairly small town....kingman...but If my house gets taken away, i don't know what to do....off to the hills i go i guess.
keep in touch,
GODSPEED TO ALL...
NUZZ

FEMA Camp Footage:
Video
Explanation
History
Locations

Here's the link:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

Any suggestions regarding proactive solutions? Talk about it here, send us and email or members forum

It is my opinion that we all need to raise our level of awareness and our sense of urgency. Prepare and Unite!

Re: C. Evans and (Everyone)

I am in a city that has a Fema Camp in it I just recently found out. It is on the list of known Fema camps. Being in a big city makes it difficult to be one step ahead of it all. I would move my family in a heart beat if I could. I have kids that I have 50% custody of and the ex wont hear anything of it. Until I can find a way I just hope and pray they are with me when tshtf. We all have some very tough decisions to make and I say, do whatever it takes to protect your family. For me, its all about timing. I continue to search for a place for my family to be and I may have found one. I will be going back there soon to have another look. I have more family beginning to wake up to help me figure this all out. I have more supplies on the way and really giving this a LOT of thought. You can not be too prepared. We are all looking out for each other here. We will know what is coming sooner than most, hopefully soon enough. Not much rural area here but a 2 hour drive away. Not much help I know, but I will consider it if the opportunity arises. If not, something closer and well hidden. Trying to think like them is draining!

I still think that we all need to put our efforts in 2 areas. Exposing obama for the non-cirtizen that he is and the sovereignty of each state. We win one or both of these, I believe their plans will be delayed allowing us to regroup and find more solutions. What are your thoughts?

FDA now controls the tobacco industry.

more chemicals!

http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/baby_formula_perchlorate.html

Re: Stand United

Here is a short video that you may want to add to the forum. A simple breakdown that puts things into perspective. If only people actually understood how simple it is.

http://wimp.com/thegovernment

Here is a link explaining that it is possible for a Hawaii resident who was born out of state or out of the country to obtain a birth certificate. Meaning that he would in fact have dual citizenship making him ineligible to be president:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm

Please see new video above submitted by Snatchum. Great breakdown of the political systems around the world.
Thanks Snatchum

If you have an informative video you would like to share, please submit to: unite@warnthepeople.org

The real Scott is the one without the blogspot site. Some one impersonating him ,created a blogspot site to smear him and spread lies as I understand it.

This lawsuit needs our backing, All we are asking for is the truth. Produce the documents or I say, let's have a new election and we work our tails off to get a Ron Paul or a Constitution Party constituent elected. There was real momentum during the election, can you imagine what the momentum would be if we had another crack at it? Especially after this was proven for all the world to know and see?

cherry....i checked the oathkeepers site and it was a guy named stewart that was on alex jones...not scott.
NUZZ

awwwright the bilderburgers the cfr the imf need i say more the time has come.the endless chattering and lawsuits and protests. the scumbag motherfuckers in those organizations do not give a rats ass about paper courts they own the judges or protesters line up nicely for the snipers to take out. they are waging an open and declared war on you and me. it is about population reduction eugenics.they praise the chineese for thier wonderful templat. they kill more common folks evryday.bill gate giving billions to murder the unborn in all nations. they are right here in the us in new york why do we not go arrest them how many would it actually take? you arrest the illeagal resident the congress the senate evry state gov the supreme court the joint chiefs.the founding fathers warned us and left us the leagal tools to do what we all know we need to do. it is our duty our standing orders from washington himself to throw off an oppresiv gov read the constitution and the fedreralist papers.yes we need to move peacefully as much as we can but spraying us with poison is an act of war do you see it? can anyone beside me see that? they openly say they are doing all this and more. bullet beats paper everytime.i do not want to go to a shooting war but i can tell you that that is where we are if we do not arrest all of theese bitches now!they got a convienent shooting in new york and philly this weekend right up there where they are talking of martial law and taxing guns and ammo out of existance. my prediction is mon they will allow the new ag eric holder to temporarily suspend the 2nd ammendment. they gave him the power to arbatrarily ban at will do you think he will not use it? he is foaming at the mouth to ban all guns. and yes nuzz i am foaming also while i am screaming and typing. i know that a lot of you may think that i am a bit extreme but before you judge me completly take one minut and think about what i have said here. they are openly waging war on us this very moment.when they get our guns we will be in a hell of a jam.when they are arrested we need to order the air forcr and the navy to start bringing evryone over seas home immediatly. and arrest all at kbr. we need to get evryone hom and remove all illeagal alliens. then cooler heads than me can arrange an election. and start in on some changes. as for me i say we revert to the laws of 1780. then you let the world know you fuck around we blacken youre sky with b-52s.other than that you want a chevy?.we also arrest all at boeing lockheed ect they are in the new world order and mkultra knee deep. then when we have this nation back we see who really killed kennedy and arrest anyone still alive. and basicaly declassify all cia fbi nsa ect docs.any one involved in 9-11 arrested. any one! who ever planed or exacuted. i wonder how far will it go before we as a nation says enough? i got a good idea that washington would have had enough a long time before now. my grandpa went to fight ww2 my ole man is mia presumed dead in se asia and i am fucking stark raving pissed off at this and all of us for we have allowed this to get here. it is no ones problem or fault but ours the american public. i love america and i know that i will die for her and thats ok with me. but i will be pissed off even more when i have to do it. and that is what seperates me from the scum that is waging war on us i love it enough to bleed for it and i pray that all of you do to.

you are absolutely right Prater....

I actually feel now for some reason that you would give a right arm to NOT resort to a violent defense....I must admit for awhile i thought that might be your first choice but something just now triggered that for all the words you vent here....you're a very loving compassionate person,....sorry for the misread on that....i admit that i can have a little anger issue myself....there are no words to describe the extreme disgust in the pit of my stomach....that for some insane reason there's not 200 million already on a march...i have to keep reminding myself that the others ..."somewhere, out there""" are not in control of the daily thoughts...they are to far suppressed into the mind control, propaganda, manipulated little box...they are in a sort...prisoners right here, and don't even know it.
we are almost too, prisoners, but we are only backed into the corner...at this point we still have enough wits about us to push back and get out of the trap....so i guess it may be that "WE" the awakened ones...are in charge of trying to protect the 'sleeping unaware, helpless ones.'
I had a thought, and wonder if anyone has any idea...EXACTLY HOW MANY 'FORIEGN' TROOPS MIGHT ALREADY BE HERE ON AMERICAN SOIL....under the disguise of visiting for some lie of excuse like sharing training with other nations...or some stupid thing like that??? How would i research finding out how many...what Base they are 'VISITING' / training at or with and how long they have been here....you know all the pertinant facts.
Here's my far-fetched idea....since the info is already well known that the "american" troops are VERY AGAINST and some say will not...obey any orders to bare arms against fellow citizens....could it be that the foreign troops are to step up and do that since they would probably not have a problem with "shooting us".
you know...must of our troops are over in other countries...and i saw some thing about a whole bunch of RUSSIAN tanks that are on some train track in, one of the states...aww hell, it freaked me out so bad i didn't get any details written down.
most everything i print...I download videos...i make notes ...i highlight key points....but every so often i come across that one article that so totally flips my lid....i shut down the page and go screaming into the other room.
And now i go and buy that report from the vision website and it describes in exact detail to the moment the entire agenda....and each persons role in bringing into play....and it looks like we are very close to that 3rd world war....i know its been talked about before and some put it off to another smokescreen, but according to this report (lots of research went into this)the real plan from the elite is to wage a 3rd world war...the Masonic layout to the fullfilling of their prophecy calls for it...and there ain't no way around it...these black magic illuminati, are very strict in the prophecy as they see it.
And we know that the money control is now been handed over...no secret this time...to the world bank...IMF and the UN is probably already printing up the NEW LAWS for world order to follow.
Lindsay Williams said 2 months ago he gave it to the outside maybe 6 months, before our banks would be shut down and ...poof....all gone america.we are at CRITICAL MASS....or very very close to it.PLEASE...won't somebody come stay in my house with me...i want a buddy to help me dig my trenches...i can't stand watch 24/7...a troop of 1 aint a very big Briggade now is it. ( alittle humor there).
I have no idea how much i have been going for...i am almost in trance like nature, so much to say, and my mom just gets up and leaves the room...shes gotten so far gone now she's not aware of words much....its all just noise to her.doesn't know i am talking to her...even though she wouldn't understand , but she used to at least sit there and look at me and nod her head...now , up she goes and into another room as if i weren't even there.
I'm talking to the walls and the dog and the air and oh yes ...God above, but he's real busy right now...not time to answer back.

ONE GOOD THING TO SHARE...I remembered today that about 4 years ago I got the local paper to do an article on the chemtrails...well i had given my e-mail in the article, and from that i had gotten soooooo many replys from people on how great i got it out inthe open here in the Daily Miner news...i found all those e-mails and I can maybe find some of those people...cuz we used to meet once a month about Gov. corruption and chemtrails and all that....I might actually find some else to stand up for the cause with me....in fact gonna do that right now when i am done here...
Which is about now,
My sincere love out to all of you,
till later,
NUZZ

watch this video....very good ,
bill moyers show on the fraud in the bank scams

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/watch.html


its berry good
NUZZ

open question to the leadership of n korea

i wonder what will you think when you see a assload of good ol boys in bass boats comin youre way?

seeings how the japs have a joke for a navy i propose that ranger boats crank up production and send them all to japan. they are as crazy as the koreans i do not know that they got good ol boys there but i am sure they have an equilivant. i would love to see all of them in bass boats headed youre way screaming bonzie! what a better scenario for america you all kill one another.

so i wonder kim do you know that the other three horsemen are saddling up?

i am saddled already yes.

and i agree to an extent about the grand jury idea. i olnly say how many grand jurys will the convene to indict me for not having licence plates on my truck? 1 so we got a grand jury one week ago today handed down an indictment for the nigger. so now what we need is arrest warrants. and some balls to serve those warrants.that by the way was in georgia. when i leave my house i am outside the wire.i have spoken with the lord on this matter and belive that he will unleash me when the time is right. we all have some ammount of his work to do here. and we will be here till its done. even if we do not even know that we done it.i am pretty sure what my mission is. and will exacute the orders given me by the lord with extreme prejudice. he has ridden into hell with me in the past and i am sure he will be on the port door gun the next time also.

i have been looking for others to band with to convene a jury and no one will talk to me. some even have laughed in my face when it was suggested. you cannot sue the president and who the hell are you to charge some one with a crime? theese fuckos are lost. i say when i take youre woman and youre money who the hell are you to say anything to me?

there will be plenty of sports on the big screen at the fema camps yall. i cannot belive how well that shit works. i mean it works perfectly. you have to give credit were it is due and the nwo douchbags really naild that one.they all know the sports scores for games played before they were born they cannot tell the difference between left and right hand. as i like to say they could not find thiere own asshole in a snowstorm. i wish they would all drink the piss. or koolaid.

remember my prediction for mon morn that ag will ban guns due to mass shootings.

hey you hear about the groom of the stool? google it. some shit for brains pardon the pun follows the queen around collecting the shit and keeping it in a archive. he should wash his mouth out with buckshot. wtf? we got that going on and dickheads here in cbus oh stealling and drinking the piss really now. it makes you wonder what should we do with theese inbreds when we win the grand prize? we will fiqure that out later. snafu.

just a couple good ol boys never meanin no harm just tryin to make it the only way they know how an thats just a little more than the law will allow

saddle up patriots this is not a drill lock and load when you are outside the wire you are in a hot zone. use all 6 senses if you want to live. untill we meet again this side or that

There is a John Prater in us all.

I'm just glad he's on OUR side!

p.s Great Dukes of Hazard quote

nuzz
i heard that on alex jones show maby last mon.

stand i can show you a lot of dummys that would freak out to hear some one say that aloud. be carefull encouraging me

nuzz you know i used that truck thing for an example i do actually still have my tax plates they are cammo lol

inside of every gook is an american trying to get out

I watched that show growing up. Its a classic.

Just had to do it :o)

Re: C. Evans

Thanks for the link. I am reading it now. As far as time goes, if this is a solution, I'm not sure how quick we can act but together we could sure give it a try.

i hear today that kissingger asures the ruskies that all huns will be confiscated by sept 09


let the games begine

Finally something I can laugh at. Maybe we can't wake everyone up...But, I know something about Americans and the 2nd Amendment. I almost hope they try it. No, I do hope they try it! They will light a fire under the asses of many more people than we could ever hope to wake up. Bring it on! Moo hoo hoo hoo ha ha ha haaaaa!

NUZZ i live in kingman and i am moving my family this weekend to pinetop az....i have a place to hunt fish and grow food!!!!!But was reading and thought it was krazy you live here in kingman!!!!!

Pratter, your killin me! I can see it now. You and I, 4am in a foxhole, illumination rounds and a gerbil...oops! Cancel the gerbil. (I'm all about twisted humor!)

I wish we could fight together my friend. You are the guy all patriots want on their side. I can picture you manning a Heavy MG.

snatch you say we in the hole at 0400 hey i wonder did you think we should be making that preverbial call to lord buckwheat beings how we up anyhow?

now how i got to be a racict now?

The first video you have posted from "Lady Liberty" is a spoof. It's from a comedy website called the Onion. If you post this as fact people will laugh at you. Whether this is any truth to this issue or not the video you have posted is a spoof from a comedy website and will ruin any chance at credibility for you on this issue.

snatch yes i have a lot of hate for theese mofos like sorrose the queen the fed ect. it is like the fuell we powere the space shuttle with when i even think about them.

panwo i belive that you made a liberal jump as to the meaning of my previous statements about lord buckwheat. the things that i call it yes it are i belive the only things that really bother it and get under its skin. chaff its ass so to speak. i predicted all this when it appeard on the scene. and have been 100%right. that is because he does what the queen and the fed tell it to do. i do not have a racial problem with the mexicans or the canadians i mean that they need to understand that we are serious about them staying in thiere own yard. the canadians are a bunch of homos and not a threat to anyone. but they will need to understand also. i do not hold it against anyone for wanting to come to america. you cant. you can however realize that they are coming in a wave that is sinking us. i say we make them a state. but in the mean time stay down there. when this all goes to shove i do not intend to stop just because we have taken america back the real manhunt starts for those billionaire fucks at that point. i do not want to waste time trieing them iether.panwo slow down a bit i say things very bluntly and a bit rough at times i know but you will soon if you speak with me realize that i have youre best interest in mind as much as mine. after all if we can not help ourselve how will we do for any of the others?i hope you see that i was not going white supremacist on ya not intentionaly anyhow. you do me a favor go to washington and go the the wall. then slide on up to ground zero if you havnt allready when you get done there ride out to the lakota reservation and look around and wounded knee if you are not as mad as me and filled with the rage that i have when you get home i would see a dr. we are on the same page my friend we are.

I am very sorry for the harshness in my comment i jumped the gun and i apologize dearly ...i really just get worked up because i think WHITE
supremacist give me a LAW ABIDING AMERICAN FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM A BAD NAME! They ruin the cause with hate this isnt about hate it is about FREEDOM...and i see now that YOU like i just let their anger get the best of them! I too agree with everything you just said. Yes OBAMA is the queens little fkn pet and yes mexico and canada need to stay on there sides of the fence. All of this i trully believe as well! About ground zero ....Everday i live i grow more angry about those innocent people who were killed by the same government they felt was protecting them. I feel that they will get there justice soon enough by the hands of people like you and myself!!!All this being said My foxhole will be dug deep and will have enough room for you my brother. Now LIKE YOU MY RAGE IS BOILING and ABOUT TO BOIL OVER! Not only am i angry about all that these fucks have done to all these people that they are trying to strip FREEDOM from but they have put MY 3 MONTH OLD SONS LIFE IN DANGER with all of this BS and with there vaccines and i will never forgive them for this my son DOES NOT DESERVE the burden they have placed on his shoulders this is not his fault! TRUST ME THERE IS NO ANGER LIKE THAT OF A BRAND NEW PARENT WHOS CHILED IS IN DANGER!
There is no push to fight for FREEDOM that is greater then that of a father
fighting for the freedom of his KIDS! Sorry once again my friend!

Keep your powder dry
and your barrel clean
good luck brother

PANWO

PATRIOTS-AGAINST-THE-NEW-WORLD-ORDER

NUZZ you didnt see my posts about kingman? Check out what i was telling you in the posts above.

panwo i just spent 20 minuts doing a big post for you. and it got doinked up and didnt post. i dont feel like it again now will do later
but there is no need to apolagize to me i am rough at times. i am also very thick skinned

for nuzz

poem i wrote a long time ago

23 hrs we flew it was so dammed hot
at the first shot.... shock this is for real.... radio traffic hand signals the smell of jet fuel some one just puked on my boot

the noise so intence the fight so immence mail run to medevac some man is dead

this goddamed heat so much dread the night has brought no relife something has occupied my other boot
i havent showerd i dont know how long so cold and alone though surrounded by a coalition

i think back what did gunny say? damm i miss him
my girl sends cigarets and skoal

the eyes on that kid the one one i had to meet eye to eyein my weapon sight i see them

grandfathersays you aleays will

every one


every day

now as my father and his i keep the photo albums but do not have to open them.

For Nuzz.

Hey Nuzz, Whens the Laughlin Run gonna be. Maybe I can arrange something. It's a blast if you can tolerate all the Drunks. Damn sure wish I still had my Scoot. Where's your FREE room ?

re: PANWO

YES AND I RE-READ IT JUST NOW SO IT WOULD BE FRESH IN MY MIND.

WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT...HARD TO TELL IF ANY PLACE WILL ULTIMATELY BE "SAFE"
BUT I SURE AM GLAD I AM NOT IN A GIGANTIC MAIN METROPOLIS LIKE PHX OR L.A. OR DETROIT....I DON'T DOUBT THAT KINGMAN WILL BE 'HUB" AREA...I MEAN THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THE HOOVER DAM BRIDGE....ITS GONNA BE NEW ROAD ALL THE WAY VEGAS AND THAT PROJECT FALLS UNDER???? YEP....NAFTA , HMMMMMMMMM
WHO DA THUNK IT??? LOL

ANY WAY...IF IT GETS REAL HAIRY AND THE TIME IS RIGHT...I HAVE BACK-UP PLAN WITH A VERY GENUINE PERSON, A MINDFULL AND CARING HEART AND SOUL...
and mom and I can seek cover together with her and who ever else is there.
I will out of respect not say who it is but she knows and she will know this is a great big thank you.
Lots of people can be in the moment and offer help or freindship at times like this but in the end ...they back out or ???? whatever.....but something about this person gives me 1000% certainty i can put trust in the integrity
they uphold because it becomes a gut instinct that you feel comfort with.
its a proven...gut feeling that is different than the twinge...which only is a flag raiser in your mind...The gut...at least mine...has never failed me when it choose to activate itself.

hard to explain....but that is a friend you know you can count on, and I will join together in their little spot if need be.

need to go...will be back
Nuzz

I found the city/county codes last night that describe which agencies will control what during an emergency. It states FEMA will control where displaced citizens are placed. I wonder where that will be?

Medford, Oregon (Ord. #1999-162, 1999

Jackson County, Oregon (Jackson County Code, 244-14, 1994

You can see if your local gov sold you out by checking the laws on your state gov site.

Re: Nuzz

Blues at Sunrise dedicated to Nuzz

Albert King and Stevie Ray Vaughn

If we can all reach down and fight for our freedoms with as much passion as Stevie played his guitar, we would all be the better for it.

Thanks Nuzz -

Dear Fellow Patriots,
Lots going on and wanted to share a few tidbits to get your feedback. First welcome to Panwo and great to see C. Evans back in the open forum. Here's the latest and I will be following up with a call to action email soon.

(A Big Thanks to "WakeUpAmerica" for providing valuable information that I in turn share with all of our member's.
You are greatly appreciated!)

There is a taxday tea party (April 15th) taking place nationally. This is an event I will be personally attending and since it is a nationwide call to action I encourage us all to get involved. I will be handing out flyers and talking to people that will listen. Here is the link to find the nearest meeting point:
http://taxdayteaparty.com/

We have recently encouraged members to get behind Dr. Orly Taitz in her efforts to get to the truth re: obama's citizenship, there is more evidence than you may know.
Here's the link:
Defendourfreedoms.org

I have been reading into the Common Law Grand Jury idea from the site Nuzz recommended at: http://www.riseupforamerica.com/

These are several angles we can take and need to use everyone of them.

I want you all to know that I realize that we all come from different backgrounds and beliefs of what we need to do to regain our freedoms and to protect our families. This forum is dedicated to free speech and I want everyone here to know that as long as this site exists, you will have a voice on the People's Website! Bottom line is, we all care, or we would'nt be here. You should all hold your heads high, for each one of you represents the true hope this great country needs.

Thank you all for being here

-God Bless you All

2 more links worth visiting

Rally on the Lexington Green, April, 19th 2009:
http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/

and

Control the Food, Control the World.
Help protect our food sources:
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/

Hi :)

RE: United

thank you for the good song...I love stevie ray and jimmie vaughan and rythm and blues.
I ordered jimmie vaughan's cd..."do you get the Blues"

I got accepted to join the Grand Jury that will be operating in an OnLine capacity.It's a bit more detailed to arrange...but Bob Cambell's manageing everything...and i am still working on forming the one in Az.

I agree with what you said that there's more of our endeavors showing up in mainstream media. And it is hitting them from all angles...including things like that William Black who is exposing the INTENTIONAL FRAUD AND ALL THOSE WHO HELPED TO FACILITATE IT...OF THE LARGEST BANKS....AND...AND ..HE COMES RIGHT OUT WITH THE FACTS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION...INCLUDING OBAMA, ARE STILL CONTINUEING TO COVER UP.He says that they are scared to death...they are in so deep...that they would be lynched ( MY WORDS HERE NOT HIS) when its revealed in its entirety.....ooh baby...rock'n'roll. I have never felt so worthwhile to accomplish what can and will be accomplished here.

and whats still so surprising to me is that when i start to feel a push forward in a faster pace is needed...I start hearing it from everybody else.

we seem to all be picking up on the energy flowing from this...the urgency of this is escalating so rapidly....BLOWS MY MIND.and regardless, me and my life has grown in so many ways....if i get taken out of society tomorrow....I have laid a path forward to so much knowledge that will be seen in its glory on the other side.

I always get a smile when I realize all the truly wonderous people i have come to know. and yet never met any of you...
this is changing humanity in more ways than one.

love and rock'n roll
GODSPEED,
NUZZ

Re: Teach

Welcome back! Thank you for the suggestions and all of your hard work. I think I will resize the Obama Deception or possibly move it to the Videos by Topic page. As for the music lol, it never stays up long, songs come up in conversation and we'll play them for a day or so. Still learning how stuff works and I am working on reformatting things to make more sense.
I appreciate you adding warnthepeople to your flyer.

Stay healthy and a reminder to all to take care of yourself, I know we are all working very hard but we must remain strong, these all nighters are killer on our bodies. We need everyone around for the victory party! and, I have a suggestion regarding your enemia teach. Try Bee Pollen, it should bring your blood count up. Iron can be very harsh on the system over time and ask your doc about b-12 shots that will also help. Oh and juicing carrots and beets together too. I hope you have a speedy recovery and feel better.
I will keep my eyes and ears open for people in So Cal. for your son.

-United!

Yes i do agree with you there is no place that will be actually safe.Sad to say that is somthing that is very very true. But i do know the rural mountains are one of the greates places to increase our chances for survival from what we are about to face!
It has everything you need and more. Plus the best place for "gorrila warfare"!

Yeah and about the dam ive been angry about the checkpoints for quite awile .....they turn law abiding citizens into feeling like there criminals!

And i agree people's "WORD" doesnt carry any weight today. They are just sheep that have been brainwashed to "need the goververnment"! They tremble at the thought of having to actually survive with there own two hands! Sad to say there programed to give up there RIGHTS! And alot of them will willingly do so for there "SAFTEY"! Dont know about them but me and my family are safe everywhere we go, my RIGHT as an AZ citizen to legally carry a firearm insures this. That anyone willingly trying to harm me or my family or any other innocent civilian around me trust that they will be met with strong resistance from my S&W 40.cal!

But there has been many many chemtrails lately i thought i was the only one seeing them that knew what they were here in kingman. I wish i would have got a picture of them! one day about two weeks ago there were atleast 6 trails accross the sky week later .........SICK hmmmmm i wounder why?

Keep your powder dry
barrel clean


PANWO

Good morning !!!!

this is the second time i have started this....I am always pushing the wrong thing and end up leaving the page before I finish....man does that just make me want to pull my hair out.
I had almost finished and was about to push the send button....I decided to replay a song on my play list and click on the wrong tab and LOST THE WHOLE dang post....maybe that should teach me to not get so involved with writing a novel sized post , but that would mean I'd have to learn to keep my entry short and sweet....me , not ramble on and on and on...????? hhhmmmmmm NOT me.
I need to re-group take a moment and I will come back and say what I was gonna say previuosly.

godspeed,
NUZZ

Re:Everyone

To everyone that believes we the people are powerful and have the ability to beat the "evil" ones. I agree, we are strong in numbers as long as the social fabric is not torn. If the financial system collapses...We as organized people are finished! Only the resilient, resourceful, people with a strong survival mindset will make it(skilled survivalists). How many people do you know that can start a fire by rubbing sticks together? Do any of you know how to? How do you find water in an area that looks to be dry. These are the only kinds of things that will be important when the time comes. This may be The Illuminati taking the final step. This could be the reduction in population. This could be the start of the new currency (implanted microchip credit system)etc. etc. etc. My point is, We will have an enemy. Which one is not important at this point. Just know preparation, will save your ass...not bureaucracy. I am not saying that waking people up is not a good way to change things. I am saying there will come a time when you will need to take care of yourselves on the most primitive level. If you don't know the important skills of survival, and have not successfully applied them...It's endgame for two thirds of this worlds population in less than six months! So go ahead and submit videos, or talk about these secret societies that we are chasing around like ghosts in the night, Or get your shit together and start learning how to thrive with only the shirt on your back! It's time folks. Blunt? Yes! Only because I give a damn! You can spite me, ignore my warning or you can take action. Only one of your choices will have a positive outcome. Think really hard about this.

j,
I do know for Facts that the farmers in america were told(by the feds) that they cannot collect out on there credit lines....whats this mean for us and our families? This means that they will only be growing about 1/3 of what they usually grow. Well this will not account for what they usually loose to "Nature" and other things, and biengs that this year is shaping up to be record breaking for bad weather,its going to get pretty bleak this coming fall on the food supply for the united states! that bieng said time to tell the wife we gotta head out and get some more can goods gotta fill another plastic toat. lots to do lots to do .....5 more days till seeds go in the ground Hmmmmm Good HEALTHY ORGANIC PRODUCE!!! Farmers? Dont need um your a farmer, im a farmer, lets GROW SOME FOOD! grow your own never starve!

Keep your powder dry
your barrel clean

PANWO

Nuzz...I see things differently now. I see a threat that will be there no matter which "conspiracy" we decide to believe in. Complete Chaos! It's inevitable. I've broken everything down to it's simplest form, and chaos always emerges as the end result. Not to be a smart ass...You are not likely to need a fire for warmth when the sun is shining(magnifying glass). Good Luck all

Re: Teach

Please send me an email to unite@warnthepeople.org . I may have some helpful information but I need a valid email address. Thanks

RE. PANWO

I hear u but where i live there isnt enough room to farm my yard is nowhere near the size. My grandfather does very small scale farming which is decent but im having feelings that people might try to steal what grows. Its in a small 10 by 5 section next to his garage nothing glamorous. Most of the land around here is privately owned. its a regualar town with houses one next to the other. im more concerend with people finding out that i do have stockpiled food and trying to get to it. Weapons and ammo are high on my agenda. Even when and if i Bug Out i couldnt carry all my supplies.

To: Everyone

Some refuse to wake up and I ask everyone this question: If you had only one shot at proving who is really running this world, what information in your arsenal of research material would you provide as hard evidence and proof?

It can not be something subjective to hear say, must be bullet-proof, iron clad, no way to mistake its validity or credibility.

The most convincing evidence is......
(fill in the blank)

Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated. The more proof we have the better. We will try to put something together on the site that people can reference.

Thanks for your input

-United

Stand United...

If i had to say it would be a compilation of recognizable people speaking against obama and the NWO something along the lines of professor griff and KRS One in the "obama deception" coming from NYC; that spoke to those who ive told to watch the movie more than anything. I think that it acts like a smooth transition to open them to more serious things like this site and other sites. personally if u try to hit them with the possibility of SHTF this year they tend to disbelieve and call me crazy. I dont know how many other vids exist out there with people speaking against the NWO. But if big names and famous faces were saying it, it might have an impact.

idn just my thoughts

Can't post

HEY GUYS, I'VE HAD PRETTY GOOD LUCK WITH STARTING OFF WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I TELL THEM NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THE GOV WANTS THEM ALL HERE. BECAUSE ITS THEIR PLAN TO DELIBERATLY DISTROY OUR ECONOMY. THEN I GO INTO THE N.W.O AND OTHER STUFF. THEY TEND TO PERK UP WHEN I MENTION CHUCK NORRIS AND WILLIE AND OTHERS THAT SAY THE SAME THING. THEN I TURN THEM ON TO ALEX. I TRIED FLIERS FOR AWHILE BUT THEY ALWAYS DISAPEAR QUICK. I THINK OUR SITE HERE IS VERY INFORMITIVE TO START OFF WITH.

Wow snatch u kind of burst my bubble there. I religously watched survivorman, i actually thought les stroud was good. Ill still watch him b/c its the only show about there. Bear grilles is a true hack with a film crew and all.
Yea it worries me alot about the amount of people that will be relying on me. Its not that im the head of family or anything but it is for the simple fact that im the only one who truly believes in what is being said out there. I still live with my parents, i was going to move out but with things being the way they are i want to keep everyone as close togther as possible and it is better moneywise. It sucks how when SHTF the same people that laughed at me and called me crazy will have a sad desperate face begging me to help them. then what am i supposed to do? do i become heartless and turn them away? alot of these people will be family and friends. i know im not the only one dealing with this.
Nuzz i feel your pain i couldnt imagine what its like. i have a sister that permanently lives in NYC due to brain cancer and her treatments. its tough to have to take all these things into consideration.
Also u dont have to be running through the woods like snatch(lol) i think that if u stockpile enough food and ammo toilet paper tin foil bleach and all of that; then you can connect with others in your area or nearby. If it does "go down" others might be able to help u in exchange for goods or maybe a bed to sleep in and a hot meal. its all about connecting with our patriots. its difficult b/c "they" control everything including the internet. find a way and keep on trying.

RE: Gun/United,

Hi Gun, Thanks for your suggestions and the one about having my brother who is losing his home move into my rental was a good one. When his money probs began several months ago I offered it to him to live in before I had a renter in there. I wanted to help him and cut the rent in half with the first 2 months free. He didn't want to go down to SoCal but stayed in Sac so I had no choice but to rent it out to someone else. We are renting it mo to mo just in case things don't work out here and we have to go back. I'm keeping my eyes open for a good running van or something. I figure if we get tossed out into the street, we'll have something to live in for a while. We have an older car and I've loved it - rides like a dream but we've put money into her so as not to have to buy another one and to keep overall cost down. She's chipping paint (YUK) and I am beginning to feel a little embarrassed when we are out in it. It really needs a little cosmetic help right now so I might splurge and have Maaco or something do some touch up or paintjob. I don't see the use in getting rid of a car that is still running but being isolated and stuck at home is getting old. I stay plenty busy anyhow.

I think its all about balance. I have family in financial trouble that have no real alternatives, my son included. I mean how do you turn your own family away? I know our limits and we can only do so much and have to look at our own precarious situation that could change on a dime. Not that having loads of money brings true happiness, but having loads makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE!!

UNITED!, thanks for your suggestions, I don't have a juicer but like beets. I wonder how much in beets or beet juice would I have to consume to take the place of iron supplements. I go to the doc Monday and will ask about the B-12 shots too.

I will email you, thanks. :-)

If you are asking questions about what guns to buy, or ammo to stock up on. You've probably already missed the bus.
"Assault" rifles have nearly doubled in price. AK's used to cost $450.00 last summer they are now priced at $800.00 AR's, $1500.00 and up. Mini's, over $800.00. Maybe you don't mind the price tag. Good luck finding one. I was buying .40 cal S&W ammo for $14.00 a box two weeks back. Now I priced the same Blazer Brass FMJ at $27.00 a box, 9mm, at an unbelievable $47.00 a box. Even at these prices, They are out of stock 6 days a week. This is inflation due to supply and demand. The Bullet depot waits at Walmart every Thursday and Friday and buys ALL ammo they can, BEFORE the ammo even gets on the floor. Don't believe me. Call around!

Stand United:

I don't think they will round us up and take us to the FEMA camps. I believe they will use The lack of food and water and the over abundance of violence to draw us into the camps. Something like: We will give you food, water, shelter, and protection if you come with us. They could say "we have a vaccine for the Avian flu. "Come with us". You'll get your injection along with an RFID Chip. Many people will die before we are even offered any assistance. Why would they waste any resources hunting us down, when they could use the crisis that they create to have people willingly go to them? Whatever happens, I don't think it will be obvious that they want to harm us. Just the opposite. They can reduce population, get complete control of the survivors, Wipe out the Constitution, and implement the NWO in one move. (with our complete cooperation). We already know they say, "never waste a good crisis". I don't think it will be nuclear either. Bio or chemical Maybe. EMP, and let us kill each other in the chaos? Maybe. They could even use HARPP to cause "natural" disasters globally.
If you are not able to get out of the city and you have to make due. Avoid being seen at all costs. As soon as people come across one another, you will be viewed as a threat. If someone happens to stumble upon your "safe house"
What do you do? If they are alone and unarmed. Do you take the risk of letting them move on. They may come back later with others to harm your group and take what you have. Fuel will not be available at the pumps until order is restored . Generators and vehicles will be useless unless you are extremely resourceful. Displaced Iraqi's bored holes through the floors of buildings into the ground to tap the water mains. They weren't flowing but they did contain water. I haven't thought about where to hide out in a large city since the one I am in is so small. I'll ponder that one. This really sucks.

Re:J

"The Big Book of Self Reliant Living" is actually geared toward urban living. You may want a field guide also. What info are you looking for re; guns & ammo?

RE: snatch

What you wrote is so minndblowing. i try to prepare as best as i can but i really dont want to face facts especially since most of my family is in a big city. im lucky enough to live in a smaller town further upstate. One of my uncles who actually was the one responsible for telling me to go to infowars which brought me here, just retired from the NYPD and is buying a small farm like an hour north of me. That will be my bug out spot.
I wasnt really looking for info on guns just hearing what others have. I guess you can say that i jumped on the bandwagon late but that had to do with laws more than me. I dont have the funds to buy high ends AR's maybe i can afford an AK but i havent got one. I buy what i can and its not much i dont have my pistol permit so no handguns just a shotgun and a 22 rifle. Dont laugh its not much much its more than most people have. Im definetly adding another shotgun maybe this week or next. As far as ammo goes i buy everything that i possibly can. Ive bought countless 500 bricks of .22 ammo and shotgun shells out the ass. One question i do have though is with all the .22 ammo i have will the ammo outlast the gun. i mean multiple shots will be needed to take someone down.

Who knows there might be someone willing to trade a gun for some food. Not alot of people are preparing the way they should. especially around here.

WOW GUESS I'M STUCK WITH A LOUSY 100 ROUNDS OF 38'S, I'VE CALLED EVERY GUN SHOP AND ALOT OF OTHER STORE IN TOWN. NO AMMO. ONE SHOP SAID MAYBE IN A WEEK BUT WILL ONLY HAVE TARGET PRACTICE AND THAT WILL BE $30 A BOX. CAN THAT BE USED ON PEOPLE OR ANIMALS ? WHATS A GOOD SURVIVAL MANUAL TO GET ?

A new video regarding the transportation of the bird flu has been added to the playlist above. Please offer feedback once you have watched it

-United

One thing I have asked myself: why does China continue to give us loans??? Here's a possible answer (it can't be proven because those involved would never admit it, but follow the links for further info.) Here's the link:

http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/search?q=Eminent+Domain+

PS: I'm really glad to see the Ron Paul video on the Fed- thanks!

Re. C.evans hey at least you got soemthing. couple hundred of something aint that bad. try cheaperthandirt.com and other sites that sell ammo.

O yea the city is a deathtrap. Does anyone remember that blackout that hit the east coast a couple of years ago. It was ridiculous how out of control people were. NYC was scary. stores got broken into, people were being robbed and there were cops at every corner and subway station. Now that i think about it sound slike martial law to me. That was only one day without power.
"SECURE OUR RIGHTS" ur correct, most people have no idea how to cope. and living in any city will be tough. WHat im worried about is people trying to leave the city. it will be a mass exodus prompting authorities to keep them in the city like New Orleans during hurrican katrina. I think the best way is to get out before the majority try to leave or hunker down until u can stealthly plan a way out.
Bird flu sounds like its the way to go. They might try something else because of all the attention its getting. Has anyone ever watched the movie "children of men" if not i suggest to watch it, kinda scary

Re: C.EVANS

Any bullet can be used for hunting or protection. Because of technology bullets have been refined for different purposes. Hollow point bullets are designed for defense and some hunting because they expand on impact, causeing more damage, yet limiting peneration. FMJ or full metal jacket is used for war or target. They have a copper jacket around a lead or steel core. They are able to penetrate the most and are cheaper because you can buy them in bulk. The wadcutter or swc is a target round. It has a flat edge that is designed to cut circles in papaer targets. There are many others, but these are the most common. With that being said a bullet is still a bullet. A heavy metal projectile traveling at + super sonic speeds. A peanut traveling a 3000 fps could be deadly. The .38's you have are probably soft nose or swc. They will do what you need them to do.

High brass 2 3/4" or 3" mags
Slugs for distance. Buckshot for up close. Save your bird shot for hunting.

Has anyone seen "BIGDOG" yet? This thing is straight from hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww&feature=PlayList&p=CDECF1C49C1F37B1&index=0&playnext=1

I hear you solo i did the same to my shotgun. Installed the pistol grip fold over stock. what scared the crap out of me was the confiscations during katrina. i figure i can break it down and place it in my backpack or BOB. i doubt any confiscation will happen. not on a mass scale thats for sure. Talk to your neighbors but dont fully disclose any prep u have done. if they are not as well prepared than they might look to you for everything.
HAHAHAH that ive seen that thing before im not sure where tho. it does look freaky.

Re: Teach

A while back, you had expressed some concern regarding your son in Orange County. I may have found some solutions for you. There is a small group of us going to the Tea Party in Sacramento. Please contact me no later than Monday. I was thinking we could meet with your BIL at the tea party to discuss further.

Sorry about the typos. Didn't proofread that one.

I know that I have been Mr. doom and gloom lately. I just want to be sure we are all "somewhat" ready for what could happen. After all, we don't know what, yet alone when "it" will happen.

As Stand United stated "It is with these obstacles in mind I am determined to take a proactive approach to try to stop it in the first place before it gets to this." We should now put our attention back to his statement.

Here's the link for Bird Flu Distributed by Dept. of Homeland Security http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc

Re: Snatchum

I agree it is difficult to be proactive in many regards, especially in the city.
Nobody really knows how are when this will all go down, like you said.

The videos we have placed on the open forum regarding fema camp timelines and transporting bird flu, were placed not because we deem it as proof of what is to come, but out of obligation to warn the people of information that is out there for all of us to decipher.

Snatchum, you have been a big help and inspiration to many. I for one feel more empowered by reading what you have to say and taking your advice.

the main thing to always remember is that we have each others back.

-United!

Fully agree with stand united snatch you have definetly been a big help. And of course we will look out for one another. when things go bad its always gonna be good to know that there are others who are on the same page.

RE: Mike
I think your situation is more closely related to mines than any other so far. We do what we can do with the limited budget. Adding aything other than another shotgun or low end rifle isnt possible for me right now. Waay too expensive. I wish i could get into gardening.

Snatch do u have any youtube vids? or anything like that?. You have alot of knowledge in that head, gotta spread it around.

I've been a member of this website since January and have made several posts in regards to the original videos.
I don't have the time to waste chatting on here everyday however, I've had something happen to me in the last week that's DIRECTLY

I've been a member of this website since January and have made several posts in regards to the original videos.
I don't have the time though to waste chatting on here everyday like alot of you. However, I've had something happen to me in the last week that's DIRECTLY related to this website that may be of interest to the founders and members. I'll try to be short and concise.
Last Monday evening, all of a sudden, I was unable to send any email from my home account. Anything that I sent immediately came back to me labeled SPAM. I called my ISP to ask about changes they may have made and was told that I must have a bug that's going around which has attached itself to my email.
Well, that sounded plausible so between last Monday and Friday evening I downloaded and installed 11 different antivirus/spyware packages and ran them repeatedly on my machine. Everyone of them came back telling me my machine was clean as could be, no problems.
At that point, Friday afternoon, I decided to try a different email program thinking my first choice had gotten corrupted somehow.
After setting up the program I received an email from a friend so I replied to it and it went! So, I figured that the program was the culprit and proceeded to set up the new program with all my info INCLUDING (THIS IS IMPORTANT) my sigfile.
For the record my sigfile consists of a small pic of the US flag upside down, along with a Thomas Jefferson quote AND a HYPERLINK to WARNTHEPEOPLE.ORG!!! I also have a link to my website in my sigfile.
So, after I completed these tasks and got things the way I had them in the original program I proceeded to write an email. No sooner did I hit send and BOOM it was returned as SPAM! WTF????
So, I thought about this for awhile unti I realized that it worked until I setup my sigfile. So, I removed it as a test and boom...the email went just fine!!!
At this point I'm pretty pissed and don't understand what's going on. Why can't I send email with my sigfile attahed?? Never been a problem before....
Now convinced that the problem is for certain with my ISP (Charter), I make the first of 5 calls and spent the next 6 hours on the phone trying to get to the bottom of this........
To make a long story a bit shorter, during my 3rd call I was put in touch with a gentleman I could actually understand and he told me (READ THIS SLOWLY..) that since Obama took office that charter had been directed to up security levels regarding email. One way they'd done that was to make a "blacklist of websites" that "someone" doesn't want distributed via email.
This guy didn't know about my sigfile, but was telling me that according to what he'd heard around the office about new Charter policies that certain hyperlinks would be flagged as spam if detected in an email message.
Now I understand what's going on these days better than most, this country now is Germany in the 1930's all over again, BUT I still found it amazing that Charter and/or the government would find it necessary to start censoring my emails.......I actually started to chuckle and this guy said, "yeah, pretty wild huh"?
BUT, after I got off the phone I decided to run some tests and what I found kinda unnerved me a bit. I've tested and retested numerous times in the last 3 days and I get the same result everytime....I don't have any explanation for this other than what I was told and you're free to believe or not..I don't care, but BOTTOM LINE IS.....with a hyperlink to WARN THE PEOPLE.ORG IN MY SIGFILE...I CANNOT SEND A SINGLE EMAIL!!! IT'S FLAGGED AS SPAM. IF I TAKE OUT THE HYPERLINK TO WARNTHEPEOPL.ORG.......THE EMAIL GOES THRU EVERYTIME, NO PROBLEM AND THIS IS USING EITHER OF THE TWO EMAIL PROGRAMS I'M USING NOW......THE ONLY FREAKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMAIL GOING AND AN EMAIL COMING BACK AS SPAM IS THE WARN THE PEOPLE HYPERLINK. THAT'S IT....
Now I don't understand why the hell this is happening. I don't understand why I'd be the only one to figure this out. Maybe they're just getting it up and running in certain areas....dunno....maybe it's because my name is the only one from Michigan in the volunteer section of this website. Maybe other folks have the problem but haven't figured it out yet....dunno, don't care, but this kinda brings the whole thing in focus for me so I thought I'd do what I can to warn y'all about something I discovered.
If you've got questions you can ask 'em and I'll try to answer 'em, but I'm not gonna be hanging around here on a daily basis. I got stuff to get ready for when things get real ugly, later on.
This has been a very enlightening experience for me and made me realize just how paranoid and how far these crazy bastards will go to try and control information. Given this incident I don't expect the internet to be a viable commuication tool for much longer.
If I were you I start learning morse code and how to run a ham radio. Learn how

Re: TC
First of all, thank you for your message. Sorry to hear it took so much to get to the bottom of the problem. What you said is quite eye opening. Somebody is afraid of the truth leaking out. Must mean we are on the right track. As long as we can continue to communicate via the net, Warnthepeople.org will carry on with helping and warning as many people as possible.

obamas policies have changed several sectors that I know of personally:
Education
Healthcare
Internet

Each of these changes has brought about less freedom for us all. The time to unite together is NOW before the Constitution is completely abolished.

It is critical we all work together with a tremendous sense of urgency.

Thanks again for looking out for all of our best interest.

-United!

RE: Tc

I Know what you mean, I lost my Hotmail trying to send my Political stuff. Too much Spam. I have alot of trouble getting into sites of question. Mainly Internet Exployer cant display this page and its always this type of site. Just today it wouldn't even let me to my mail. But I expect them to watch us being the WEAK KNEED SNIVILING PUKES they are. Nothing good or honorable about them. I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYBODY STOPPED PAYING THEIR TAXES AT THE SAME TIME ? I TINK IT WOULD BE TOO OVERWHELMING FOR THEM TO DO CRAP.

hi all.

I just sent out many e-mails to about half of my list of peeps.
I included a link to this website to tests what tc had mentioned...I will let you know what happens with them all.


I am beginning to feel a bit better and am back in full swing now. I will get caught up on all the news for the last few days.

thanks to all of you who were thinking of me....it is appreciated.

I am ready for a Party>>>TEA PARTY...TEA PARTY, I WANT TO GO TO A TEA PARTY....

I am still disorganized and can't seem to get a handle on getting everything together like i want it so when time comes I'll know where it all is but I just keep plugging away at it.

staying off the internet did help with relieving stress but then i feel a bit guilty that i am not staying on top of my responsibility to take care of knowing whats going on.

if we don't stay up on the daily news something can slip by thenI might be caught off guard.

gotta go and start searching the news.
I will check back later

Love to all of you,
nuzz

To all Americans...yes, to unite is to survive....and the more people you unite with the more power and strength you have...we are all in this together and we will survive or fall together,.. so be sure to include us too,...we are 35 million people and joined at the hip.
We are Canadians.
We are North Americans.

Re: C. Evans

I'm taking my kids. We're making signs right now!

I am leaving in about 2 hours....its 2 oclock here right now...and at the last minute I see that Kingman is having a teaparty.....and its SNOWING here, can you believe it.
So I may have to go to kingmans party instead of going to Lake Havasu City....thats gonna be the better one...and they got the LONDON BRIDGE there too.

oh well, I'll have to see what the weather is just before I leave.

I have pulled an all nighter and so geared up I can hardly see straight.

I recorded that song" WE MUST TAKE AMERICA BACK'...INSPIRATIONAL MUSIC FOR THE RIDE TO LAKE HAVASU .....

GOOD LICK ALL...AND HAVE FUN AND MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO ADD TO YOUR LIST OF LIKE MINDED PEEPS.

LOVE TO ALL,
nuzzel

Just got back from the tea party. It went well, spoke with a lot of people. Long trip home from Sacramento, will fill you in on details tomorrow. Good night everyone.

-United!

I was thinking the same thing? Hey Prater, can we get a 10-2? Come back.

Hey everybody...
I am still awake sitting here trying to get things sorted out from the teaparty pics, and clean up the files on my PC.
I have gotten a little haphazard with down loads and such...well I must say that for a last minute gathering here in kingman, it was not to bad.maybe 100 or so people thruout the day.Ithink when I was ther maybe 75 at any one time.

One thing this teaparty did was show all the people out there they are not alone.It's great encouragement to see that 100's of thousands of people nationwide gathered together in unity for the freedom of our country.

and even though i found some were mainly there to protest all the recent spending and bailouts....and that they are very sorry they voted for Obama...(hehehe I knew it would show its true colors eventually)I think the only supporters he has left are the bangksters...and the still young and dumbed down , cellphone in the ear, first time voters, that still think he's sooooooo cooooool.

but when they start loosing cellphones, and internet, and have to go into servitude....they'll come around.

Now that Washington and the Puppet Master "ELITE" have seen just how many we are in #"S nationwide I think we better be on our toes and moving fast to stop whatever we can....we can move full speed ahead at this point ,and I think that we had just enough MSM coverage to wake a few more people up....the ones that were afraid to speak up cuz they thought they were alone in the way they felt.

Now we should see an increase in people coming awake.

I'm not sure how yet...but I am going to do all I can as Quickly as I can,
There's a whole lot more awake people here n kingman than I thought there was.

well, I guess thats it for now, I'll check later to see who's up and running strong for the day...LOL
godspeed
NUZZ
And a shout out to J PRATER...where are you?????????we all worried here.

HEY EVERYBODY... PHX TEA PARTY WAS AWESOME. 5000 / 6000 PEOPLE THERE. MADE MY HEART FEEL PROUD. OUR FUNKY LIBERAL NEWSPAPER TRIED TO SAY THERE WERE ONLY 150 OR SO. NO WONDER THEY ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. NO J PRATER YET I SEE, HOPE HE DIDN'T GET HIMSELF ARRESTED OR SOMETHING.

LATER, ME

IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD YET....
THE ESTIMATED TOTAL NATIONWIDE WILL BE OVER 1 MILLION...... YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SORRY, I GOT TOO EXCITED.

Don't F--K WITH US.....WE WILL ONLY TAKE SO MUCH, AND THEN WE ARE A MAJOR FORCE OF COURAGE , SKILL, KNOWLEDGE AND DETERMINATION....

THEY' thought we were to stupid....and lazy.....well thats what they' get for thinking.....

ALL THOSE A-HOLES IN WASHINGTON AND THE B--SHIT THAT ROLLS OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS....WELL THEY NEED TO SUCK IT BACK UP AND 'B L O W ' ,IT OUT THEIR ASS WHERE IT BELONGS.

If I thought i was ever fired up before ....OMG, i am about top explode with the desire to 'CHARGE' forth...

ok, I'll stop for now, but we can not let one minute slip by...this is huge and the time is right.

see ya'll later,
nuzz

TOPIC OF CONCERN

This has happened to people that have asked WTP for some input as to what they have experienced. The 2010 Census has begun. They are using GPS technology for this task. The Census workers show up at your doorstep and ask to get the exact GPS location of your front AND back doors! To top it all off, the Commerce Dept. no longer controls this function, THE WHITE HOUSE DOES! The Census is used to divide Congressional Districts according to their population. Is it, or is it not, a conflict of interest(to say the very least)to have the Federal Government in control of this information?! How much of the data can be manipulated! Below I have attached some links of actual accounts of people's experience with the Census procedures as well as an article explaining the White House involvement. There is a Glenn Beck Video on the subject as well. Not sure I'll display it here(should I?). I pose this question? What should we do when they come knocking on our door?

-United!

Links:

http://www.ameriphobic.com/?p=17

http://vlogz.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/obama-power-grab-involving-the-census-bureau/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2oMbs_h6ZI

http://mg.gpsworld.com/gpsmg/Latest+News/Census-Bureau-Kicks-Off-with-GPS-Help/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/591909?contextCategoryId=33824

http://drizzten.com/blargchives/001282.html

It appears the oath is just to keep information private. I believe this GPS Census is a way of implementation of things to come. Why the change in how we do things or more accurately who is now doing the audit!?

-United!

RE; UNITED.....

According to a Department of Homeland Security Bulletin YOU may be
a Rightwing Extremist an a Potential Terrorist!

Do you disagree with the politics of the Obama Administration?
Do you dis-agree with giving illegal immegrants amnasty?
Do you dis-agree with giving illegal aliens social security, public
housing and food stamps?
Do you believe that Obama is a Muslim?
Do you dis-agree with the banking bailouts?
Do you dis-agree with U.S. foreign policy?
Do you dis-agree with the outsourcing of jobs?
Do you believe there is a threat to U.S. power and sovereignty by other
foreign powers?
Are you a Veteran?
Do you own a cache of food and/or weapons?
Do you dis-agree with using abortion as birth control?
Do you dis-agree with same sex marriage?
Do you dis-agree with firearms restrictions and weapons bans?
Do you believe that most volent crime in the U.S. is committed by minorities?
Do you believe in any governmental conspiracy theories, citizen detention
camps, or in a “one world government”?
Are you the least bit angry over the economy, and the loss of 1 Trillion
( 1 thousand [ million ] ) dollars in the value of our assets.
Do you belong to either a Christian Identity organization and/or a militia?
Do you dis-agree with the federal law enforcement’s handling of the con-
frontations at Waco, Texas and Ruby Ridge, Idaho?
Are you white?
Are you distrubed that most motels are owned by foreingers who can barely
speak english?
Do you believe in Biblical prophecy?
Are you distrubed that "African Americans" can hide behind the NAACP and
the ACLU, but if you speak out, you are branded a racist?
Do you disagree with Louis Farrakhan and the racist remarks against whites
by the "Black Muslim Nation"?
Have you ever visited the "FinalCall.com" website?
Do you dis-agree with inter-racial marriage?
==========================================================
If you said "YES" to TWO of the questions above; YOUR GOVERMENT considers
YOU a rightwing extremist an a potential terrorist!

Hi Guys, Sorry I haven't been around much but busy packing my bags for my trip to Colorado. Will check on you all from there. Have a Garden to plant and alot of Canning to do. Plan to come back to Arizona middle of July if its still there. Hopefully I can get back to Colorado if everything hits the fan. Thats the Plan anyway. Had a Neighbor sitting at my Computer all day getting Educated. He's early 20's and is passing out WTP Fliers everywhere he goes. I can't Print them fast enough....

good morning!!!!

I have been annoyed by something that occurs in almost every side of news, articles, editorials, chats, forums.....everything , everywhere...
and that is the "terminology " used when trying to describe the citizens and people who are the "back-bone" of this nation...or the groups like us who have finally woke up enough to say enough is enough.....

well what most reporters and the general public (our side included) have continued to use the term..."ORDINARY'...or..."COMMON"...or.."EVERYDAY"...
or..."NORMAL"...

WELL,LET ME TELL YOU THIS ONE THING.."I DON'T LIKE THOSE TERMS...NEVER HAVE , SO I HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO A SPECIFIC WORD THAT IS RESPECTFUL TO ALL AND WOULD TRULY GET TO THE "HEART" OF WHO WE ARE....AND I THINK I FOUND TWO GOOD "WORDS".

Lets start referring to our selves as.." MINDFUL "...or..."CONSCIENTIOUS"

Those two terms I think cover ir very well.
And the more we use that term, the more others will. I am going to notify any one, any time i read or hear something that refers to us as "ordinary / common /everyday/normal, and let them know that we are not...Common...we are not ...ordinary...we are actually very EXTRA-ordinary...becuase we take the actions others won't.
SO TO ALL THE MILLIONS OF US OUT THERE....WE ARE THE MINDFUL AND CONSCIENTIOUS BACK-BONE OF THIS NATION....AND LETS MAKE EM' UNDERSTAND IT.!!!!!

LOVE TO ALL,
nuzz

I wanted to talk to all of you about something I feel is extremely important.

We truth seekers that have seen what we have seen and know what we know, have had to overcome or at least experience just about every emotion under the sun. I want to say to everyone, your life from the moment you woke up, will never be the same again. What does this mean? Why am I bringing it up? I communicate with a lot of people everyday and it just has to be said that it scares the hell out of people. They are scared, confused and lack hope. Of course I realize that I am not speaking for everyone here, but have to admit that when I first found out, I cried like a baby and sometimes still do. It has changed my daily routine, my family life, my relationships, basically everything. So I was thinking that if I have experienced these things and others have shared that they have experienced it as well, maybe we should talk about it right here.

First of all, I think it is a natural reaction, it means you feel, you care, that there is good within you. It truly is a war that goes on within me. Anger, sadness, hopelessness, fear, determination, loneliness, persistence, hope......Really depends on the day as to which one shines through, hell sometimes I feel every one of them at the same time. How much can the human mind consume?! Well, I don't know, but I do know this. We have, each one of us, been chosen to be the ones to carry this burden. We have to get a hold of ourselves and realize that this is not just a movement it's a calling. I have always believed that everything happens for a reason and that when all is said and done, good will triumph over evil.

Now, I know that there are many that believe that there is no God but I do not believe that for a second. It is when I am researching and unfolding information that I feel all the negative emotions but when I am doing something about it and realize my belief that there is something much greater waiting for me beyond this life, that all the positive emotions come. I still remain confused as to the best way to worship God but know He is there and I know that I will be judged one day by my Creator.

Now, I am not writing this to preach to anyone but merely bringing forth a topic rarely discussed because I know we are all to some degree, experiencing this in your own way. I think it is so important for all of us to realize that if we remain diligent in our efforts we will at the end of the day, made a difference.

What I relaize at this very moment is that it is o.k. to smile and to laugh and to be joyous in our efforts. Think about how meaningful all of your efforts are, think about how important they are. Realize that you are doing good and it feels good to do good. Like I shared earlier, I feel all the positives when I am doing something to defend freedom. We are not winning this thing overnight and we have quite the challenge ahead of us but again I say good is supposed to triumph over evil! We are on the right side! There is peace in that fact! Embrace it! We are "MINDFUL and CONSCIENTIOUS" PATRIOTS.

As we move forward with our efforts to defend freedom, lets all put our best foot forward, know that God is on our side, remain positive, don't forget to laugh and love and live. Many of us only have each other on the net as our families just will not listen. I say then, so be it. Have you ever thought that maybe we got it all wrong? Even for a minute? I have! BUT I revisit my research and come away from it with more determination to defend our freedoms than before EVERY TIME!

Do I realize that we don't have all the answers and maybe just maybe got some things dead wrong? Sure I do. I will say this though, I firmly believe we got it right more than most!

I've done my research and that will never end, God gave all of us a mind to decipher information and much of it is as clear as the nose on your face. Search within and turn the depression into determination. Turn that sadness into pure happiness that you are a major part of restoring this Great Nation. You have purpose! Not everyone feels that way, but if you are fighting for the freedoms of your fellow man, believe me when I tell you that YOU HAVE GREAT PURPOSE!

For me, this is it, my life's calling at the age of 37. I've just been meandering around this life wondering what I am supposed to do, not anymore!

Although the tears still come, I have hope. Even though I know what we are up against, I know the power of good far outweighs the power of evil. I choose to refuse the future "they" have mapped out for my life. I am a FREE MAN and will not let them take my freedom, my future or my pursuit of happiness.

I will not live another second in fear. We are making progress folks. Believe me when I tell you that they fear us. They fear being exposed before they have a chance to implement their agenda in full force. We have the upper hand if only we realize this fact! Power to the People!

J

Just wanted to reach out n say hey to everyone. I am a Lakota originally from SD n now living just South of Phila, PA. I am a private self-defense/firearms/survivalist instructor and if I can be of any help to anyone, or answer any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Toksa ake, Shadow

RE UNITED

Double DITTO, That was Awesome and sure did fit my feelings.

RED ALERT!
Our Legislation, HR 1207
is IN COMMITTEE!

Ron Paul's bill to Audit the Federal Reserve Bank, HR 1207, has now garnered 55 co-sponsors and has been referred to the House Committee on Financial Services. This is a major development. The bill will now be debated and voted upon in the Committee and will then either go to the House for a debate and vote or will be defeated.

MOST BILLS DIE IN COMMITTEE FOR LACK OF SUPPORT. There is no way to know how long it will stay in Committee. That means it's all up to YOU.

It's a major step forward for our movement to get the House to even consider a bill which questions the autonomous authority of the Fed. We MUST make the most of this opportunity!

We need to step up and give the situation all our attention NOW. This is our chance to shine!

IMAGINE THE NEWS ON TUESDAY MORNING. Flood of phone calls shuts down Congressional Switchboard. YES WE CAN!

On April 25th:
Rally for Sound Money and Support HR 1207
at every Federal Reserve Bank and Office
(http://www.endthefed.US)

During the festivities on April 25th, let's maximize our petition signature collection efforts as well as educational efforts. Try to include a location which allows for interaction with the public in your plans. After April 25th, let's renew our efforts to support these bills and redouble our signature gathering.

On April 27th:
Audit the Fed! Melt the Switchboard Day
(http://endthefedusa.ning.com/events/audit-the-fed-melt-the)

On Monday, April 27th we will follow up our nationwide End the Fed! rallies with an "Audit the Fed! Melt the Switchboard Day".

We must all call in on that day and get EVERYONE we know to also call in to our Congressional Representatives.

The Congressional Switchboard number is:
1-877-851-6437.

Let's focus particularly on the members of the House Financial Services Committee.
(http://www.house.gov/financialservices/members.html)

Let's also call to PRAISE and APPLAUD those Representatives who have Co-Sponsored the HR 1207.
(See Co-Sponsors here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1207)
FORWARD AND POST THIS EVERYWHERE.

Word needs to be spread virally NOW.

If you are a radio, scanner or shortwave enthusiast and keep track of airlines,
fire, government, police, medical and military operations, then the Connecticut Survivalist Alliance (CSA) needs your assistance.

The CSA's Signals Intelligence Division is compiling a comprehensive list of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) frequencies for the Patriot (Sovereign-Citizen), Militia and Survivalist communities.
We would ask all enthusiasts to forward their frequency lists to: ctsurv@yahoo.com.


All lists will be compiled into a single PDF and distributed FREE of charge on the CSA web site.
You may submit anonymously or be given credit in the PDF, the choice is yours.
The lists will be combined to sort out duplicate listings and organized into a single master listing.

This is one of the many projects undertaken as part of "Operation DDT",
the CSA's Operation to counter the FBI's "Operation Vigilant Eagle".

We are shooting for a May 1st release depending upon list submissions.

Re: Patrick

We have changed the way videos are viewed on this page "The Open Forum" Just below the written message at the top of this page is a playlist of videos to select from. Just scroll through the list until you reach the videos you are looking for. I hope this helps.

-United

Re: Patrick and to all.

The Fema Update w/timeline video has been pulled by the maker of the video. She has a response video that explains what is going on with the original videos. It has been added as the first video in The People's Playlist above. Would like some responses as to your opinion of this information. Credible?

-United!

Re: Shadow

Thanks for your input. As I've stated before, these videos were placed on here, not because of its factual content but had been sent to me by a member that was concerned. Shortly after I received this video, I got a couple of more emails regarding the same video. Here's my take. To me this video obviously doesn't prove a thing. The only thing to do here is believe someone's word or not. Much like the one regarding the bird flu transport. We just don't know. What I do feel is important is that when we come across things, we display them, soak them in and then talk about it. Of course what they are saying isnt a stretch for me to believe, in that I believe FEMA has some plans in store that we won't like very much. I also have a hard time with how the story was rolled out. Seems like they were awfully careless to say the least to leak out such a thing and just the setting itself makes you wonder about the "truth" of any of it.

That said, I will leave her follow up video up here for a day or two and then move on. We have been talking on here for a while about preparing ourselves and communication, protection and uniting locally. It's business as usual around here. Plan for the best prepare for the worst is my approach. Either way, by doing so, you ensure the best possible chance of survival whether shtf or not.

-United

I sent prater and snatchum an email. Received a reply back from snatchum but nothing from prater. Snatchum has just been busy lately but doing o.k.

-United!

We all pick things up on a subliminal level. Whether we consciously understand it or not, subconsciously we all absorb things happening around us. On the Superconscious level (psychology defines this as "the Id"), we are ALL connected. There is only One light in the Universe.... One light with many lamps.

re:J First u need to make them aware of the gravity of the situation. Utube "The President Who Told The Truth" and "Population Reduction 2012" for starters; then maybe "Obama Deception" or "Endgame". Honestly when it comes to self-defense for women AWARENESS is key....and a firearm. Women have a hard time w the idea of stabbing someone. Stun gun maybe. Im not a fan of mace because the wind can turn it against u. Do your best to get them out of the city. Do u need a pistol permit to OWN a handgun in NY? I honestly only trust my life to Glock; and I have many. Its the only gun I recommend to my students as well; but with no safety u must practice diligently. U may have to spend a few dollars more but can get a used one for around $350-$400 and make sure u get it w night sites!

Re: J and United I personally carry a 10mm and while not for everybody, I would recommend a .45 to the both of you. If you want a 9mm do yourself a favor and stock up on Cor Bon 115gr+P ammo. Truth be told, the 9mm is an impotent round whose only benefit is high-capacity. Thats no longer relevant as Glock has both the 10mm and .45acp in high-capacity guns. As for water, nothin beats the Berkey. If you are relying on pond, stream, lake water you'll want the white ceramic filters. The black are more for tap water. Much easier than a finite # of gallon jugs which are over 5lbs agallon and take up much space. You can also dig a hole and put a cup in the middle. Cover it w plastic and weigh it down w stones w a single stone in the middle. This will collect condensation in the cup. While not a lot, it could mean the difference between life and death. Look for the most nutrient-dense canned goods and dried foods. Dried mangoes have the highest Vit C content that I have found. Peanut Butter is good but dont get the natural as it requires refrigeration. Just a few ideas for you to mull over.

I posted this in the comments section of infowars.com The article is about the military patrolling the Boston Marathon. I do believe this example shows the expediency and severity of the situation. Here is the link to the article and my comment follows. http://www.infowars.com/combat-support-battalion-deployed-to-maintain-public-order-at-boston-marathon/ Lets clarify a few things. First of all, Alex is a reporter. He’s never claimed to be any more than that. His tirades are meant to wake up the sleeping masses and lets face it, who else is gonna inform us as to whats really going on CNN, MSNBC, FOX? I believe his body of work speaks for itself. Second, with a few exceptions I don’t think anyone here would lay down and take what THEY have planned for us. However, as Patriots what are we to do? Stay behind our keyboards and bicker with one another? Open fire on OUR troops at a marathon and ignite the revolution? That is NOT the answer. The masses would see it as exactly what the gov and media portrays us as….domestic terrorists. Do any of us live near each other? Are we training as a unit? Yeah, we all feel the hope, despair, and powerlessness as these events unfold daily. We all wonder how much more it will take to wake up all 300 million American citizens. Believe me I’ve tried and I don’t know if its the fluoride but they all have that “deer caught in the headlights” look as if they cannot even comprehend what you are saying. The one’s who “kinda see it” shrug their shoulders and go back to watching “American Idol” or “Dancing With The Stars”. Voting these people out will never happen; we won’t see another election. In the meantime we carry the burden of KNOWING what THEY are doing. We KNOW THEY are softly killing us with polluted water, GM foods, Chemtrails, vaccinations, etc. The best we can do is play defense. I am a law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying citizen and I love my country. I would die for my beliefs and my country. I know most of you would, too. Until the 3am raid at YOUR home occurs, what CAN we do? Admittedly, I don’t know what to do yet. All I know is what not to do. I would die this second as a free man, than live a lifetime in slavery.

Re: Shadow

Thanks for the link to the infowars article. Great post too. I'm with you, not sure the exact thing to do here. Prepare the best we can, and try to stop it all before shtf. Raising awareness is key. We had over 1 million at the Tea Party and of course most in attendance hadn't a clue to what is really going on. Great place to wake people up though. Now we have the Fed protest this Saturday and phone blitz on Monday! Thanks again for the post btw. I really believe we can get a lot of support with this. Republican and Democrat alike can all agree (I think) that the Fed needs to be audited! I think what we are doing with these efforts is to stall their plans until we can wake up the masses. Believe me when I tell you that people are waking up in larger numbers now than before. We just need to stay as diligent in our efforts to defend freedom as they are to enslave us all. Now the question is What about Human Nature? Spreading the word to not give "them" ammunition to use against us, is no easy task. The protests get violent and as you stated, the MSM will just use that to paint whatever picture they want the sheeple to believe and label us domestic terrorists. How can a guy in his garage compete with the MSM coverage. Well, of course he can't! BUT if there was a couple million of us talking to people everyday, wherever we go, handing out flyers and getting in those arguments than maybe we've got a real shot at this. I guess what I'm trying to say is, until I believe with everything that I am, that I personally did all I could, I will never stop. We have only scratched the surface in regards to getting the word out. The problem is there isn't enough of us out there spreading the word, not to mention, not enough hours in the day. Alert, inform, educate and act EVERYDAY! It has become my very existence.

I'll say this much, We're gonna find the way. I will not cater to any other option.

-United!

Here's my thought on the fema camp videos: I watched the new one and I think she is sincere. Whether or not she is right no one knows, but I have seen various things pointing to the same time line i.e.: the video on the front page of this website about the meeting with congressmen that the state governments/economies will crash summer 09, the fema practice drills nationwide the end of July (see infowars.com), and numerous financial people seeing a free fall of the economy in the 3rd quarter (Jul/Aug/Sep.)
If what she proposed were impossible, then we would have discredited her immediately. The fact that the we have to question whether it is real or not reflects the truth of the situation we find ourselves in. So it is another reminder to be prepared, and to educate the masses. There is enough out there that is verifiable that we can use at first. I was reading to my husband about the FEMA drill and he asked: "where are you getting this stuff??? Someone is probably making that up." I was able to point him to the link in the article that went to fema's own webpage. That made him stop questioning. There is plenty of verifiable material out there we can use to give us credibility when people ask.

Also, if the police are being coached on this then we need to reach out to the police. Here's what I did: I had inexpensive business cards made up. On one side is "Ten Orders We Will Not Obey"and then it lists them. On the other side I put their address (oath-keepers.blogspot.com) and this quote from their website:

OATH KEEPERS:
Military, Veterans, and peace officers who will honor their oaths to defend the Constitution, will NOT “just follow orders,” will stand for liberty, and will save the Republic, so help us God. Our motto is:

"Not on Our Watch!"

I plan on handing them out to every military,veteran, and peace officer I meet, and going to the local stations to meet them face to face in a friendly manner and give them this info. I don't know if it will have an impact but it is doing something and showing them that those who care are not a bunch of crazy terrorists, but we are the people they are there to protect.

Shadow: Thanks for the response. Your advice is right, however now I have to figure out how to get both: the black for current situation and the ceramic for where I'd like to be.

That is the overall problem I am encountering. We live in a big metro so I'm trying to prepare for how to survive here if anything happens before we can get out. But I also want to be prepared for survival if we can get out. Lots of logistics- like others have expressed.

When I begin to get overwhelmed I stop and realize that I should not be upset about the the time that has past but instead be thankful for the advance preparation we've been given. Just thought I'd share that for those of you who get the same way.

PS-liquor and tobacco, even if u dont drink or smoke will make good trade items. Dont buy bulk tobacco because it has a shelf-life of only 6 months. Cheap smokes can be bought from a lot of NDN rezervations.

Re: Shadow, thanks for all the information you have been providing on the open forum. I have learned a lot from you, snatchum, J, Prater and others as to how to protect my family and for that I can not thank you enough. Thanks for the links also. Did you know that nitro-pak is one of our affiliates? See the Be prepared page on the site menu. So many things to get, and know and prepare for. I appreciate all that is being said about the ammo and survival info. I have never been into any of the gun info, never owned one but I was a boy scout if that counts? Seriously though, you have helped me out in a BIG way and I just want to say thanks to all.

-United!

United: I just came across a documentary on YouTube, "The Calling". It is divided into 8 10minute segments. No thanks are necessary Brother. I was born into/for this. I have been aware all my life, and it has been at most times a burden. I believe this documentary to be THEE most informative and direct film about The Globalists agenda. I encourage EVERYONE to watch it AND pass it along. Here is the link.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxjTA78LJ38&feature=related

RE:J Here is some stats for .22cal and 12ga ammo
.22 LR (Long Rifle) Caliber:
One Shot Stopping Success: 21-34% (Actual)
Self Defense Rating: Poor
Recommended Cartridges:
CCI "Stinger" LHP 32 grains 34%
Federal LHP 38 grains 30%
Winchester LHP 37 grains 29%
Remington LHP 36 grains 27% 12 Gauge:
One Shot Stopping Success: 81-96% (Actual)
Recommended Cartridges:


Federal "Tactical" 2-3/4-inch 00 buck 96%
Remington "Magnum" 3-inch 00 buck 94%
Winchester 2-3/4-inch 00 buck 94%
Federal 2-3/4-inch 00 buck 89%
Remington 2-3/4-inch 00 buck 88%
The best gun is the one you can afford and shoot properly. Unfortunately, ammo shortage IS the biggest problem and when you CAN find it, it is very expensive. Nothing wrong with the Highpoint.

Just make sure the .22 you want is chambered for .22L.

Re: J & snatchum I agree with you on the .22 ricochet effect and FMJs, "all fall to hardball". However, doubletap.com specializes in "bonded" hollowpoint bullets, which are the wave of the future. They will penetrate auto glass or doors, and expand reliably. With the price of ALL ammo these days, they are comparable. Sportsmansguide.com has some good prices as well. N if you're a .223 man, Smokewagon.com is sittin on 6 1/2 million rounds of LAKE CITY....BOOYAH! When ya care enough, you send the very best!

To Secure:

Thank you for your kind words..and I have relied on God to answer this for me.
I do believe thats where the revelation I had the other day came from...about knowing that it is finally time to place her in a full care facility. And even though I feel at peace with the decision that this IS the best thing for her , it still becomes an issue of the final step of courage it will take to follow through. And although we ARE NEVER ALONE WHEN WE WALK WITH GOD BY OUR SIDE , we are still the one who has to make the physical effort to see it in reality come to pass.
I know that in a sense I "lost" my mom to alzhiemers a long time ago...but in the final stages ( last 2 yrs) it is so overwhelmingly evident it is as though they are a complete stranger but you become attached to the "idea" of who they were (or are, but hidden in the darkness of illness) and thats what is so hard to let go of.

Since I had already gone thru this with my father,( I was Mom's salvation back then),I was hoping it would be so much easier this time around and i felt almost an obligation to My Father's memory to attempt keeping mom at home untill the end.

I will find the strength and courage to do this...but each time i make up my mind and say"ok, get her in the car and just go straight to the facility" , the tears come so fast that I can't face it and stop myself. Even now as i write this my eyes are swelling with tears, I just love her so much and I am so angry that this damn disease hit BOTH my parents and then I get angry at my sister...she's absolutely NO help at all....but I understand that she is even weaker than me , and ultimately thats ok....I am not really judgemental, and we all are only human and have shortcomings...but that doesn't make us any less equal...it just makes us individuals...
you see, I have many racing thoughts and emotions, I need for them to settle down a bit , and then maybe I can follow through my task at hand.
It is great to VENT to all of you, and somehow , even though we have never met, I feel so close , and can feel in my heart that you all care....I actually feel like you'all care more about me than my own sister, she hasn't been in contact (not even e-mail) in over two months...and she lives in PHX, only 180 miles away.Go figure????
But she "ran" from my dad's problem too....it's who she is...always has been...and always will be...I must come to terms with that.

I feel better now and have lots of stuff to get caught up on and hopefully will find a moment of concentration so0 i can.

My sincerest Love to all,
Nuzz

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.650649,-116.139221&spn=2.062781,3.99353&z=8 this is a link to a CONSTANTLY UPDATED MAP OF THE OUTBREAK. http://www.prisonplanet.com/who-swine-flu-could-trigger-global-pandemic.html http://www.prisonplanet.com/mexico-shuts-schools-amid-deadly-flu-outbreak.html http://www.prisonplanet.com/previous-swine-flu-outbreak-came-from-fort-dix.html

This swine flu combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have never seen before. Sounds man-made to me. Mexico is the guinea swine (pig) model for the CDC to watch and learn. Don't freak out. It will be over as fast as it started........I hope!

sorry forgot to give you the link:

http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/2009/03/tuesday-17-march-2009-to-mr.html

did not want to run outa space

nuzz i feel youre pain i have been there wanting someone to go for theire own good and feeling guilty about it. and being relived when they did.

i know it was something about the indictment process my solution arrest warrants dead or alive on the koon of koons the entire supreme court the congress the senat the alphabet cops. and the fed and irs and fda you get the pic.whos with me go slick go green go postal.

some one mentiond booz and tobbaco for trading stock good lookin out i also have narcotics there will always be a market trust me and i do not drink smoke or use no substances. little kodiak bout it.


robert and the homland security questionare i belive i anserd yes to all of those questions. i know i know dont mention it i will keep up the good work.

i tell yall i intend to be at the top of the heap of death and destruction that i have in mind and i gotta say all theese fucking fags with that political correctness reality tv bull shit will have outstanding warrants so fast my fingers might break the sound barrier. yea im talking about new yorks own fag unioun the north american man boy love association where they will teach you how to get the alterboy in the ass and get away with it. they will be dealt with by me personaly. wether or not god orders me to deal with them.they will be FUCKED. yall think im fuckin round im not google that shit it is real nambla just like that. i got to hit the rack got a lot of dreaming about killing mofos to do so i can work in the am.


whiskey bottle brand new car damm oak tree in my road

Hey Gun!!!
It is good to see all is well with you,
and I hung my flag "upside down" yesterday.
I printed two small paper flags and hung those upside down in my car window too.
I have officially declared this country in DISTRESS, at least from my point of view.
Have all of you heard about the FEMA / DHS
international excercise....It includes Australia, Mexico, Canada , and the UK.
here it will include fema's Sect 9 of this country...thats TEXAS,NEW MEXICO,ARKANSAS,LUISIANA.OKLAHOMA.
Now "WHY" would that excercise only cover the five states????is it possible they have some of the most GUN owners per capita in this counytry....and WHY, is it including other countrys??this one worries me , I mean really worries me....
heres a timeline of coming events in this country.
1.end of May those on social sec/disability get extra $250.00 (big whoop) A petty distraction for those poor "folks"....(I'm one of em')

2.June 12th all digital signal for TV's...( total control of airwaves possible by GOV. )

3. July 27-30 Fema /DHS excercise.

4. Rumor has it thru our sources that the dollar will drop to "ZERO" value and Bank holiday on or about Aug.-Sept.

5. Kissinger reportedly has been qouted as saying somewhere in a speech that as of SEPTEMBER of this year "There will be NO MORE .. P R I V A T E.... GUN OWNERSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY. !!

ALL THESE THINGS ADDED UP ARE QUITE SUSPECSIOUS .....WHAT THE f--k PEOPLE,
ALL OF THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE 100% ACCURATE....BUT SO FAR MOST OF WHAT WE HEAR FROM RELIABLE SOURCES HAS PANNED OUT.
AND THE THING IS ...EACH BIT OF INFO COMES FROM SEPERATE SOURCES....AND THE DIGITAL TV THING IS FOR CERTAIN...WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND THE FEMA EXCORCISE (I DON'T TRUST IT WILL BE JUST AN EXCORCISE....AND REMEMBER 9/11....THEY WERE RUNNING "excercises that day too!or just before that day.

And the Administration is still trying to paint a rosey picture that the economy is picking up....I'm hearing that SPIN on it all over MSM.

All the lawsuits against Obama are getting more advanced and pressure is being put on all the whiotehouse Administration.....I know this pot just FEELS like its getting ready to B O I L
over any minute.

And even if (this I thought of yesterday) they get H1207 passed in the congress and the senate....Obama could VETO the bill.Now that would suck and the whole damn nations gonnna go looking for a rope and the "HANGING TREE"{ for a certain...you know who !!)

WELL, I GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO BEND OVER AND KISS MY SWEET ASS GOODBYE...hehehehee...a little doomsday humor for y'all.

Lord help those of us who stand alone, and all who are united in this fight against the EVIL ENTITY that has our Gov. held hostage.

God bless everybody
nuzzel

Dear Fellow Patriots,

There is much going on out there and I believe it would behoove us all to be on alert and be watchful of our surroundings. I am not convinced that the Swine flu scare is just a trial run. This virus is a combination of Swine flu, Bird flu and Human flu. How can people hear of this and not believe it is manmade? Why is not the first question from people's mouth "How is this even possible"? We have had the video concerning the transporting of bird flu by DHS up here for a while and if you listen closely, the invoice for the driver's loads indicated NY. How does a virus skip from Mexico to NY in a day and now has the most amount of people with this virus than anywhere else in the country? The Swine flu vaccination killed around 15% of those given the injection (some instantly) the last time the swine flu was here some years ago. It is proven that wherever vaccinations were given, the death toll was higher! Mix this in with all that Nuzz mentioned in her latest post and you can begin to see a trend of events actually unfolding right before our eyes. I did not know about the Kissinger speech and will try to find it to put on the site. Much of WTP efforts have shifted from finding info to running the site. It is the members, that we have, that supply us with a lot of the information we have, we verify it and provide the information for everyone else. [The People] are the ones making the difference. Thank you all for being the True Patriots you are. The question remains: What in the hell are we going to do from here?! Never dispair, never give up, never stop fighting! There hitting us from all angles and we need to regroup. What, in your opinion is the biggest threat with the most impact to our lives at this very moment? That is where we need to take our focus. There's lots going on, they want us to scatter to try to put out all of the little "fires" they are starting. Think big picture, think what there plan of implementation is,let's prioritize these issues. Now, I have remained anonymous both for the safety of my family and because I never wanted this site to be about me or to shift focus on the issues. For example, how much more would get done at infowars if people did not focus so much on the personality and antics of Mr. Jones? I just want to wake people up and make a true difference in stopping the elite's agenda. The way I look at it, I will never accomplish anything significant as Stand United, nor will Snatchum, Nuzz, Prater, Shadow, Teach, J, C. Evans, Secure..... It is when we all act as one, that true change will begin to occur. So, please, let's talk about OUR next moves here. Many people feel that the West coast is not pulling their weight in this fight. I am going out on a bit on of a limb here but feel it is important to say this. I am in California (SoCal) to be more specific. My urgency level regarding the Swine flu, is elevated probably more than some in the rural areas. I feel trapped and fear for my children's lives. The Fema camp just a hop skip and a jump from my home. A divorce situation with only 50% custody and an ex-wife who is just not on board here. I am not afraid to take desperate measures, the question is when? The timing, I feel, to everyone's plans will be key to survival. So there you have it, my dilemma. With all that we know and all that we have researched, I am convinced that this group right here at WTP can find and implement the plans needed to save this country, we can't do it all so recruitment must be a part of the solution. Let's talk about what "their" real plans are and which are diversions. If we have ideas that we can put together, I can even get a vote from all of our members to move in any particular direction. I cannot stress enough, the importance of acting as one here. It will make a big difference!!

Stand United!

Swine Flu reported in New Zealand and London. New video added to The People's Playlist above.

-United!

I just returned from New york City today. I went to the football draft. I feel fine and i didnt think anything was wrong. You couldnt tell that anyone thought something was wrong people were going about their business. I still feel that it is just to get the people of used to seeing the word "flu" "epidemic" etc.. It has not killed anyone in the U.S. so im waiting. i might have to change my feelings if people start dying. I still have family there.
Its so funny that they were warning kids not to go to mexico for spring break and this happens. I guess its b/c all the little rich snobs who have parents on wall street and in corporations are the only ones that go there. This is to easy to see. I think "they" will be a bit more craftier than this

Here is the link to Kissingers qoute in a meeting with russias president....no wonder we didn't get to much news here.
Not only will I post the link but I will copy paste a short peice of the full article also....its very long but I urge you all to read the ENTIRE thing, because its about so much more but it really starts to weave the evil web together and folks....SEPT. is not that far away.
ALL I CAN SAY IS------O M G .

nuzz

Hers another very important article i n regards to this FLU" pandemic thing

this in addition to the "Kissinger" qoute and the other timeline events I posted earlier....well doesnt it just all add up too much to be "COINCIDENCES"

I AM NOT FEAR MONGERING BUT COME ON THIS IS SOME HEAVY HITTING SHIT.

CALLING OUT TO....'GOD'S HIRED GUN' ARE YOU OUT THERE ? H E L P ! (humor again)
well not totally, but kinda need to keep a bit in the midst of the fear.

we won't give up, but each day it looks like the enevitable is about to come to pass....now I wish I had armed myself...but then again with GOD"S protection I really don't need any , and when its my time ...well, its my time.
When the time does come...if ..I don't get a chance at the moment, (let me say it now) I have built a love in my heart for each and everyone of you. I mean it , you all mean the world to me.As does all humanity,
and i just wanted to say "I love you people, I will see you on the other side, but lets not go down without all efforts being amassed against the EVIL ENEMY, SATAN and all he thinks he controls....The hours are upon us....we will go into a count down mode any moment now.

and if any of you can dispute any of this or can help me to see it other wise not so urgent, I welcome that....cuz I want to be wrong. now go read this too:



http://freedomfighterradioshow.blogspot.com/2009/04/barry-soetoro-aka-barack-hussien-obama.html

New article on Swine-flu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

This is all fear tactics by Media to sell a story! More people die every day from tooth infections ..HAHA. You people are so easily persuaded.

Well, we have put out some helpful information today. Thank you all for your help. I think the thing to do right now is to get prepared for what might come next. Refusing the shot if it gets that far could mean a felony charge. If there's enough of us that refuse, I believe we could turn some of this back on them. If we have a couple of million of us saying no, then what would they do? All the plans we have talked about begs the question as to when we shift gears into that mode? The pieces of the puzzle are starting to make sense. Look at the map, notice how one of the trends is right where the Nafta Superhighway would go. notice they are trying to make us vulnerable just before the reported bank holiday. What about the radio interview re: the transporting of "bird flu" by the DHS. Notice how quickly they are prepared to call this a pandemic, the next step is mandatory vaccinations! What about kissenger making comments that "There will be NO MORE .. P R I V A T E.... GUN OWNERSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY. !! The thing to do here is to remain calm and get as informed as possible. Every site is covering this. Lots of info out there. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, know what they are saying and read between the lines. We've always wanted to be wrong but of course with all the evidence to the contrary it is doubtful. Any new updates are appreciated. Lets keep an eye on any moves from the UN and the WHO. That's it for now.

Lets also remain focused on the lawsuits re: obama's citizenship. We need a counter move here that will force them to shift gears. There busy with this, now may be a great time to serve some papers. Stir things up in the system. They may be asking for our guns soon also. We need not to become like Europe and Australia and when they declare it illegal to have a firearm then maybe people will wake up to it ALL. I can't even believe we are talking about these possibilities in The United States of America! There will be a new Revolution! UNITE!

-Stand United!

It is being reported that travel is still allowed in and out of Mexico. They are saying that this flu is like most viruses with flu like symptoms. No need to rush to the doctors. The flu is vulnerable to Tamivere vaccine.

My thought is this. This may not even be happening but it will be used I believe to get people vaccinated. If not during this "crisis" but later down the road as it may be a part of the regular "flu" shot or required vaccination in the not to distant future.

-United!

Whether the Swine flu is real or false flag, the real danger lies in the vaccination. It is reported that people may travel in and out of Mexico freely but yet a family is quarantined in their home??? Doesnt make any sense! They say that people in the US are only experiencing "flu like symptoms". If Bob is correct on the testing method, that would sure equal a recipe for them to say "Everyone should get the vaccine just in case" "Come to this facility and we'll take care of you"! Always ask the question, who benefits?!
People will fear this flu, the dollar will tank, camps are ready to go, Confiscation of all of our guns. They'll End the Fed just to introduce a one world economy or their back up plan the NAU just to get our feet wet. Just when things are about as bad as they can get, Codex Alimentarius will be introduced in December and a new set of problems to face. UN and WHO very involved in this virus scare and the puppet Soetoro will follow along as the messiah figure he portrays. So our Kenyan/Indonesian/Muslim/Christian/Black/White President can be the hero and not take his sweet time to react to this crisis like Bush did w/Katrina, people will do whatever they are told, unless we can wake them up.

How do you end a post like this??! Have a nice day?? Seriously though, I think we have all thought in these terms?? One of the important aspects of the efforts of this site is to not only point out what is going on but to offer solutions and a way to turn things around. I am convinced and probably will be til the day its time to head to the hills, that we can make a difference. The issues that make us wonder what we are going to do, need our most attention. We need a system of prioritizing things. Maybe develop a system that keeps us focused and making the biggest difference. I know, I know!!! We need a civilian task force every bit as strong and well funded as the U.S. military! hmmm j/k of course but the idea has merit. We have the tools but we lack the network. I mean who better to end the fed than the likes of EndtheFed.us, or obamas citizenship challenged by Orly Taitz and American Grand Jury? What about the NAU Warroom, or HealthFreedomUSA.org to go up against Monsanto, WTO and others. We need a network. All one body of people fighting each of the battles that must be waged. Website to website break in communication. People are aprehensive to get involved in anything other than their own important cause.
It is time to break that mentality. If we can get the 1,000's Alex jones members, the 500+ WTP members and EndTheFed.us and everyone else out there. Then we begin to have some real power. I wouldnt mind having reps from each of the websites that coordinate efforts based off of the enemies moves and we all move as one with a sense of urgency like never before. Who can argue with this logic?
Is it a good idea to find out if obama is really a citizen?? OF COURSE
Is it a good idea to protect the U.S. Constitution? OF COURSE
Is it important to protect our food?
OF COURSE
Is it a good idea to have the voting power to have a say in what happens with our economy and ending the fed? OF COURSE.

Who would dispute our cause? They all fall under the principle of Defending Freedom. It's ALL the same cause, but divided up into several small efforts and little gets done! Im not just talking about 2 websites swapping links either. I mean real involvement, offline meetings, representatives from each site all agreeing to move together. With the right people in place organizing things it could be just what we are looking for.

Any thoughts on all of this? Failure is not an option - any and all ideas and suggestions are welcomed. We need to brainstorm, we need organization! We are all bouncing too much I think. We need focus, a plan and always begin with the end in mind. Example: People say End the Fed! That's great but then what? How do we get it back to the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE? Backed by silver or gold? How does that work with trading with the rest of the world? Who do we support to implement the changes? Ron Paul?(maybe) but then what? We need not only to end what we do not want but begin what we DO want. That takes research, thought and a plan. We need to begin working on these terms to have the most impact in defending our freedoms. Totally rambling now, will end this but Im just saying I think we can do better. Everyone is working so hard but if we were more organized and worked a little smarter we might be able to truly make a bigger difference.
My wheels are spinning, any thoughts?

-United!

Whether the Swine flu is real or false flag, the real danger lies in the vaccination. It is reported that people may travel in and out of Mexico freely but yet a family is quarantined in their home??? Doesnt make any sense! They say that people in the US are only experiencing "flu like symptoms". If Bob is correct on the testing method, that would sure equal a recipe for them to say "Everyone should get the vaccine just in case" "Come to this facility and we'll take care of you"! Always ask the question, who benefits?!
People will fear this flu, the dollar will tank, camps are ready to go, Confiscation of all of our guns. They'll End the Fed just to introduce a one world economy or their back up plan the NAU just to get our feet wet. Just when things are about as bad as they can get, Codex Alimentarius will be introduced in December and a new set of problems to face. UN and WHO very involved in this virus scare and the puppet Soetoro will follow along as the messiah figure he portrays. So our Kenyan/Indonesian/Muslim/Christian/Black/White President can be the hero and not take his sweet time to react to this crisis like Bush did w/Katrina, people will do whatever they are told, unless we can wake them up.

How do you end a post like this??! Have a nice day?? Seriously though, I think we have all thought in these terms?? One of the important aspects of the efforts of this site is to not only point out what is going on but to offer solutions and a way to turn things around. I am convinced and probably will be til the day its time to head to the hills, that we can make a difference. The issues that make us wonder what we are going to do, need our most attention. We need a system of prioritizing things. Maybe develop a system that keeps us focused and making the biggest difference. I know, I know!!! We need a civilian task force every bit as strong and well funded as the U.S. military! hmmm j/k of course but the idea has merit. We have the tools but we lack the network. I mean who better to end the fed than the likes of EndtheFed.us, or obamas citizenship challenged by Orly Taitz and American Grand Jury? What about the NAU Warroom, or HealthFreedomUSA.org to go up against Monsanto, WTO and others. We need a network. All one body of people fighting each of the battles that must be waged. Website to website break in communication. People are aprehensive to get involved in anything other than their own important cause.
It is time to break that mentality. If we can get the 1,000's Alex jones members, the 500+ WTP members and EndTheFed.us and everyone else out there. Then we begin to have some real power. I wouldnt mind having reps from each of the websites that coordinate efforts based off of the enemies moves and we all move as one with a sense of urgency like never before. Who can argue with this logic?
Is it a good idea to find out if obama is really a citizen?? OF COURSE
Is it a good idea to protect the U.S. Constitution? OF COURSE
Is it important to protect our food?
OF COURSE
Is it a good idea to have the voting power to have a say in what happens with our economy and ending the fed? OF COURSE.

Who would dispute our cause? They all fall under the principle of Defending Freedom. It's ALL the same cause, but divided up into several small efforts and little gets done! Im not just talking about 2 websites swapping links either. I mean real involvement, offline meetings, representatives from each site all agreeing to move together. With the right people in place organizing things it could be just what we are looking for.

Any thoughts on all of this? Failure is not an option - any and all ideas and suggestions are welcomed. We need to brainstorm, we need organization! We are all bouncing too much I think. We need focus, a plan and always begin with the end in mind. Example: People say End the Fed! That's great but then what? How do we get it back to the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE? Backed by silver or gold? How does that work with trading with the rest of the world? Who do we support to implement the changes? Ron Paul?(maybe) but then what? We need not only to end what we do not want but begin what we DO want. That takes research, thought and a plan. We need to begin working on these terms to have the most impact in defending our freedoms. Totally rambling now, will end this but Im just saying I think we can do better. Everyone is working so hard but if we were more organized and worked a little smarter we might be able to truly make a bigger difference.
My wheels are spinning, any thoughts?

-United!

Re: Common sense

One suggestion...With both hands, Grab hold of your shoulders and pull. If you pull hard enough, your head will pop out of your ass! You want to help? Be a true patriot! This does not mean by hiding and wishing you were on the enemies side.

You said:
"Id rather be knocking down doors than having mines knocked down. I will join the Civilian corps. or any enforcement agency ASAP. Its about being on top. Rather be on the right hand of the devil then under his thumb. SRY its life. When the time comes for Satan to come after me, i will make my moves. but until then its about survival."

Your a sick, twisted excuse for an American. I'm looking forward to meeting people like you in the very near future! Until then, good luck.

i know

it was the piss he had to be drinking the piss

just say no

stand i would love to speak to you in person. if it is possible shoot me an email with a tx

what did the dirt say to the tractor?





turn me over john deer

RE: United We can never go back to the way things used to be....are supposed to be. This story is about Earth....and WE are merely a chapter in it. WE have fallen out of balance with Nature. Earth was not meant to sustain this many people; esp this many useless fuckin people sucking up a finite number of resources. These "human becomings" will NOT wake up. We have gone from "survival of the fittest" to "thriving of the sickest". THEY bred modern society to be dumb, weak, obeying sheep to do THEIR bidding until the moment when the sheep are no longer needed. That moment is upon us. I am in a similar situation to you. I have joint custody of my 4 lil Warriors. They live 450 miles away and she is not with the program. She has had them vaccinated behind my back and even put one on Prozac and Concerta at the age of 7. He has been off that shit for years and now hates her passionately. I will have full custody of the oldest 2 this summer but I worry for my youngest 2. She has ruined them with her lifeways. My oldest just defended himself and his younger brother from the dentist by refusing fluoride treatments. He listens to Alex Jones on his PSP. I am so proud of them. I am hoping they will make it down before the SHTF. I have spent a lifetime preparing for what lies ahead. I suggest to you all to train your bodies and minds and reconnect with Spirit. EVERYTHING is vibrational energy; and energy does not die, it merely changes form. Life IS a dream. Death is a mere shift in Consciousness. When you awaken from the "Dream of Life", you will know Truth. Spirit is merely asleep dreaming us into existence. LIVE THE DREAM. When Jesus said, "I am the light; I am the Way" he was speaking from the Higher Consciousness. (conscious, sub-conscious, super-conscious....the thread that unites the many) "The body is the temple of the Lord". Prepare. Use the SAID principle (specific adaptation to implied demand). Train in a combat art stressing attacks to the eyes, throat, and knees; use knives and sticks as they represent any blunt/sharpened instrument lying around.Learn the pistol, shotgun, and rifle. Train in high-intensity weight training stressing "whole body movements" and leave the bodybuilding exercises to the gym rats. They have no "real world power". Do pull-ups from towels or climb a rope. Eat only the most natural foods and consume the cleanest water. Practice abstaining from food/water for a day or 2 to get used to it (SAID) and train when you feel the blood sugar drop. I have gone 13 days. Become the perfect Warrior and fight the good fight.

Hey Gun, I went back to see what post "Common Nonsense" was quoting you from. You posted Sat April 25th. He must have missed the part when you said:


"in the begining of change the patriot is a scarce and hated man. but once his cause sucseeds then the pussys join him for then it costs nothing to be a patriot"

A perfect example of people seeing only what they want to see.

Hey all! I have been away for a couple of days but wanted to check in.
I agree that the real scare is not the flu but what it is being used for. I am in MN and because of this "pandemic" our state government is moving to take away our due process rights permanently, voting on it today. After 9/11 they were taken on a temp basis, set to expire 08/09. The new bills are SF 1462 and HF 1554. You can find info here:
https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/revisor/pages/search_status/status_detail.php?b=Senate&f=sf1462&ssn=0&y=2009 (the underlined parts are the new parts.)

Basically, they call for the mass dispensation of drugs/vaccines/etc and allow police/etc to forcibly administer these against your will, and detain/encamp you against your will. Also, after forcing these vaccines on us and our children they write in that no one is to be held responsible for any harm or death that comes from it!!!

I am in shock and disbelief. This is for those of you who will have it, but I have asked God for wisdom and have been stuck in bed for the last month with a broken foot. My life is very busy and this break has allowed me the time find info, such as this forum. A couple of days ago I was searching about truth in the gospel (after reading more and more about the insanity of these times) and ended up at this site: www.timmchyde.com . He has written a book (available as an e-book for $27) called Know the Future. It is about end times prophesy, and I have never understood this concept until now. He takes the Bible literally and explains what is happening now, just as Daniel was told in the end times the wise would understand what had been written and be given a course of action to follow(as opposed to what we've been told about "no one knows"-the Bible is full of examples where people had to act.) If this is of interest to you I encourage you to check it out. I am not done with the book yet nor could I give you a brief breakdown on what actions we should take for fear of it seeming ridiculous without context. But everything that has happened makes sense in the context of the explanation he presents, taken from scripture.
I mean no offense to anyone who does not believe as I do. I have finally come to the realization that I cannot separate my beliefs from my words and actions so I give you the only thing I can offer.


Secure

Re: Secure

I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say and please do not worry about it being out of context. Not a day goes by that I do not seek God's help and guidance. You are right in that there are several of our members that do not believe in God but we have gone out of our way to make sure that this website is for everyone, no matter what. Dedicating to doing good, fighting evil and warning people. Opening the bible today, is like watching the evening news in that the stories are unfolding right before your eyes and it would be very difficult to call it mere coincidence! Joel Ch. 3 is a short chapter but very powerful. I really appreciate your post. If we are mere mortal man, fighting mere mortal men then what's the use? "For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world, and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms.". Eph.6:12.

Like I have shared before. That when you dive into finding the truth, you are also going to find a lot of information that will lead you astray and my very faith has been under attack for sometime now. Anything you have that can offer clarity in God's word is greatly appreciated. We can talk right here or email me at unite@warnthepeople.org.

-United!

Everyone "common sense" is none other than my best friend. I told him about the site and he told me about his post. I just think that everyone is trying to survive and do what they can. This swine flu has alot of people believing this is it. I hope its not but with the WHO elevating its alert i think it is. There is little more that anyone can do now. I plan to get some more food and water and just wait for it to come. Its dangerous times and people are going to react dangerously. I try to reach who i can but everyone has their own opinions.
Re: Gods hired gun. I do have to say that your post was disconcerning. I guess i never really thought that people would truly do what they must. Im refering to your narcotics comment. I was hoping that even though shit does go bad that there would be some sort of order left. Selling drugs wouldnt help us recover or fight it would just help your pockets. I think creating or helping one more drug addict would be working against the patriot movement not helping it. I dont know what kodiak is but it might as well be super high grade crystal meth with strawberry flavoring for kids. Drugs are drugs. Coming from my direction and my push to be a police officer, that hurts. I still have repsect for you guys and how u fight the NWO, but my hope is that when the dust settles we can have a society that tries to rid itself of all of the things that were wrong before. Gods hired gun if ur thinking that then others must. That just creates more problems. Think about the oathkeepers. They wont want to kick in someones door to confiscate their guns but u can be guaranteed they'll flashbang and assault a drug house without hesitation. Nt saying your a major drug dealer. Im just saying that type of thinking is very dangerous especially when alot of people begin to think that way.
God bless you all. I mean it. Take care, take vitamins, we cant let them win.

When we were on our way to Sacramento for the Taxday Tea Party on 04/14 we drove by a big rig that had an interesting logo on it. The logo depicts 3 countries. U.S., Canada and Mexico. The name of the company is Accord Transportation. The driver slowed down on the interstate hwy when we tried to take a picture of him. Which made it impossible to get picture due to traffic conditions at the time.
Well, I'll say one thing as to his description and then move on. He was wearing a turbon. There has been so much going on since the Tea Party I am just now getting around to checking this out. So I googled this company and they have a website where you can see the logo from the truck we saw. If you go to the site and scroll to the bottom you'll see who this company is accredited by. The most interesting one being listed as ACE(3rd on the list). When you read this site, the wording seems off for a transportation company. Who are their real customers? I'm just scratching the surface on this one. Does anyone know anything about this? When you check it out, you'll know why I'm even bringing it up. Please let me know what you think as soon as possible. Here's the link:
http://www.accordtransportation.com/main.htm


-United!

now j dont take this like i am lashing out at you. i read it again after hitting the button and it sounds that way a bit. that is just simple matter of fact is all. you see in life i have had many run ins with johhny jackoff and the level of ignorants and stupidity and the mental gymnastics that they can do is never ending. and i have simply decided that they are a bigger threat than anything in this universe to america. and we would be better off without them. they are also the front line of the enemys defenses. we will need to eliminate them to get the big fish.good i look forward to a nice warm up for the big win. and lets face it cops are the bigest drug dealers in the community and only bust competition. i have it on video i know what i see. i want to scream but i got a booger on my finger. just please j dont drink the piss. alright? dont do it. that cant be good for ya. this is going to be ugly beyond comprehension prepare youreself.

yea though i walk in the valley of the shadow of death i shall fear no evil for i am the meanest some bitch in the valley

Re: Shadow,
I think the important thing, is to understand that we will never fully understand. The only way to truth is to test your belief with experiences, knowledge and an open mind. I'm just trying to get back to where I began.

-United!

RE: United For the record there are many sages and authors who spoke of this same thing: When there's no death to die, "you may live forever in the kingdom of Heaven"....Jesus was merely one of them. Modern day sages include Krishnamurti, Dan Millman, and Richard Bach. Ya know how hard it is to wake up the masses to the TRUTH of the NWO? Imagine trying to wake them up to THIS?!

RE: GHG Whats your deal Bro? I grew up in the poorest and one of the most violent communities in the country during a period of civil war sponsored by the US Gov....Pine Ridge NDN Rez, SD. I have seen and done more shit by the time I was 15 than many entire combat battalions. Are you a Vietnam Vet? 1 percenter? Some crazy dirtbag armchair warrior w a lifetime subscription to Soldier Of Fortune? Ya sure like quoting t-shirts and bumper stickers. I dont doubt your allegiance to the cause but your trash talk is only gonna get you locked up BEFORE the Revolution or get this site shut down and United investigated and charged. As bad as I KNOW I am and you THINK you are....we really don't stand a chance. THEY can shoot you THROUGH the walls while you sleep using a thermal seeking scope....don't even gotta knock. With all due respect to a fellow Human Being and Patriot....chill out. If not for yourself, for United. You two seem to have developed a bond. I believe he is a good man and his motives are just. No disrespect intended Bro....just speaking my mind.

Quayle was on Alex Jones again today. As was this Dr. The investigation is ramping up too.... http://www.infowars.com/dr-horowitz-anglo-american-vaccine-industry-behind-swine-flu-outbreak/

Re: Shadow and to all

I appreciate you looking out. There are many differences of opinion on this site. There is one thing I wanted to point out to everybody. All we have here, is written word and I sometimes have difficulty with figuring out just where someone is coming from. You can't see facial expressions, sarcasm, tone of voice or body language on a blog post. Some of the words are harsh coming from ghg and others and all of us are at different levels of awareness and have different perspectives on where to go from here. Do I wish we could always keep the conversation to meaningful solutions? Sure I do and I think we have all done a great job of warning people too. The truth of the matter is that when you keep banging your head against the wall because in spite of your efforts, the enemy continues to advance, well, you just have let off some steam. Some more than others I will admit but none the less, it gets to the best of us I think. Truth is, I am proud to stand by each and everyone of you because you are here, giving of yourself with every effort, piece of advise and every emotion. Each person's viewpoint is their own to make and everyone will meet their maker in their own time and it is HE who will judge, not I. If you take away all of the anger, despair, frustration, fear and ego, I think we will all realize that we are not that very different at all. What has made this forum so different than others is that, we all have a respect for each other and our different viewpoints. I want everyone to feel welcomed here and to be there for each other. Give each other the benefit of the doubt as to their motives, ways of thinking or even actions taken, as we all wholeheartedly move with our best foot forward, in the way we each feel is best for this country, our families and ourselves.

I forget where I've heard this before but words to be heeded:
"When fighting a dragon be sure not to become one yourself."
If you have to reach such a dark place in your heart to defeat evil, do you also become evil? It's a line we must all draw for ourselves.

-United!

Just checking in, Saw the ALERT Nuzz. Thank you. Not much access from work computer. Any major details, please let me know here. Thank you.

Re: Adjus777

Welcome to the group. I think it is truly the only way. We have to keep fighting for what we want (OUR FREEDOM!)and prepare for what comes next. Thanks for being here.


TO: ALL
Efforts among all that are fighting the same cause are too divided. We need a network that everybody joins, how long do you think such a site will be up? I think we have as good a plan as any. Inform each other, wake people up, rattle some cages and keep going! Right now, I just hope the force(Oathkeepers) within the force can make the difference. Now the BIG QUESTION? Is this it? I'm sorry, not completely convinced but planning around that theory(just in case), we all need to. I have a hunch that this is just a scare to a degree. People are dieing so its more than that, but I think that they have released this thing only to the point to get it to where they can make it mandatory to get us all vaccinated and their claims about it being worse in the fall will probably be the big one, just after the dollar goes to zero. Oh, don't get me wrong this is the tip of the iceberg of something much bigger around the corner. It's our wake up call ladies and gentlemen. The refusal of the vaccination may be the way they can see who's against them. Get rid of the people refusing to be vaccinated and they have the green light they've been looking for. Of course just a theory for now. No matter what, we must all prepare in EVERY way for what is around the corner.

-United!

Bad news for MASS... http://www.dailypaul.com/node/91399

by the way i notice if i do short posts that it works better.

shadow most of t shirt bumper sticker quotes are toung in cheek but 905 of those are song liricks i know i spelled that bad dry humor on my part. some one said something about united getting investigated belive they the fbi cia ect are watching his everymove and they watch this type of place around the clock. come on you knew that we are all crimminals for liking liberty. you are right about the book of revalations i spent more time on that than the rest of the bible. i know lots of folks have said it already try thr rest of it to it will help. i can not help myself. trust me when i tell you i love america and enough to bleed out in the street for her. most do not i do most here might would if it was asked of them but i will vollenteer. for i know that the lord is riding with me he has in the past so i feel confident that in this time of need he will ride again. i have some work of the lords to do and i will be here till its done. we all will.

RE: J I also went out on the final limb today. I have a few clients who work in the Unions and are political. While my teachings the last 22 years have included EVERYTHING I have posted on here since joining, I have censored myself from a select few clientele for certain reasons. No more. As to my post on above "Bad news for MASS", I forgot to add....and for us ALL.

Re:Stand united.

Thanks for the welcome! I have a question? in one of your earlier post you mention Accord Transportation.... I checked out where those links at the bottom take you to now? Why is the Canadian borders patrols sites and the United states sites doing? I have seen those same logos on RAIL cars From CN (CANADA NORTHERN) rail tracks late late at night... With Chemical loaded trains and cars that have false looking fronts to look like cars are housed in them but I know they have other things. I have seen them 5 times in the last 8 years. Once in El Paso. 1 time out side Holloman Air force base in NM. and here in Illinois the rest of the time.

I'm really hoping some how this is all just not as bad as I describe or as many of you seem to think as well... I have a hard time some times thinking I may sound insane and I feel it's like almost like they want me to feel this way.. Is it really going to get this bad? do you really think this is the thing they were talking about to be the sort of catalyst they need to execute the main tactical take over.... I work in Finance and I am seeing some scary trends.... And the numbers don't lie/.

I have so many questions I don't even know where to start.... I'm having a really hard time tonight with all these thoughts and after hearing Obama speak... He seems heavy hearted about something and I can see it in his eyes... What is he hiding it's like he's worried but wants to seem calm...

I really hope i'm wrong some days.... But since I started this all 9 years ago almost it's hard to swallow things and signs you can't but look at and question.... And once you do question them enough some times the answers I have found scare me to the core.... Is it really this bad, are they really this greedy and evil?

Much love to you all... And I pray for the best....

RED ALERT SHIT IS HEATING UP INFOWARS HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN http://www.prisonplanet.com/infowars-under-sophisticateddenial-of-service-attack.html

hey i admit to being a scociopath and no one says a word hmmm yall might be a little of me. sarcasm the dr that first diagnosed me ptsd among other phyco babble told me that i was the most danjerous person he had ever met. it was not a matter if but when. then the second dr confird i was shocked i think that i am a bit eccentric but i did not expect that and i expected ptst.

anyway i did get that booger off my finger, i knew that chainsaw would giterdone.
listen abortion an ugly word even. this is why god has basicaly turned his back on america. i will not judge anyone for anyother position. tell ya the truth i did not have one till after my youngest son came.

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I dont think quayle gave the red alert yet. Also @ movies that everyone should watch u can get them free online somewhere. V for vendetta and more importantly children of men. Plz watch them and give me your insight on them. Try to look past the basic plot of the movie and immerse yourself into that world. I want to hear others opinions

Last night a helicopter landed at the high school down the street from me. Took off 20 minutes later headed towards Philly. No idea why. Also, ran my usual every 24 hour scans this morning. I seem to have picked up 2 infections and 72 tracking cookies in 1 day. I only cruise a few sites generally infowars, prisonplanet, Ron Paul, n this one. Also start using "snoogle" instead of regular Google. It allows you to use Google anonymously and nothing to download. I'm sure you're all aware Google tracks EVERYTHING and sits on the Council on Foreign Relations. BTW, are you all familiar with The Georgia Guidestones? Haven't seen any mention of it here. Called Americas Stonehenge. Anonymously erected by the NWO in 1979, it details all their plans. Here's the link and United, may be a good idea to post the link here permanently. http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

FLU UPDATE http://www.prisonplanet.com/texas-doctor-claims-swine-flu-cases-far-worse-than-reported.html

Pandemic reported at Level 6 now. Just a scare or getting worse? This thing is at my front door now. Reports all around me confirmed. Some tough decisions lye ahead for us all. Please, let's keep each other informed. Shadow and Nuzz and others, Really appreciate the updates.

NUZZ
How are you doing?

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Panwo, Teach, C.Evans, Soloist where the heck are you guys, been a couple of weeks, seems longer, I hope all is well.

United!

Re: god's hired gun

Hey Prater,
I think the silence may come from not knowing exactly what to say. Your fight goes much deeper than mine. When one's thoughts control them instead of the other way around, I can only imagine the hell you must experience. No, I cant even imagine. Wow, Prater! Its a bombshell you dropped but I appreciate the fact you felt you were around people that care about you to share your experiences with. We are here for you man. I know that throughout my life, when I have tried seeking God's will, instead of my own, is when I have had the most inner peace. Your a good person, anyone who has hung around here for a while knows that. I hope you do too. We all bring to the table here our love, spirituality, caring and imperfections. We are all imperfect human beings trying to do good and you god's hired gun, fit right in. A bit eccentric, I'll admit. BUT those days you took a vacation from the Open Forum, it just wasnt the same and people genuinely worried about you and you were missed. This is an OPEN forum and that will not change. Speak your mind but please be kind. People reading my posts know that I am not a violent man(I hope), but I am very capable if need be. Our words are our own, its how we communicate. I don't hide this forum behind a password. Of course others read these posts and we ARE monitored but I do not stand for anything to be ashamed of. People that believe in God will face persecution, it's all written. My faith grows daily and even though it is challenged by philosophies that would leave me to believe that the bible is false, God doesn't exist or that Jesus didn't die for my sins, I continue to believe in all these things because it is real for me. God is Love and He can help, you can trust in that if nothing else. It's Real!

-United!

Still at Level 5....reported that were expected to be at Level 6 possibly in the next 72-96 hours.

U didn't "burst anyones bubble" New Guy. Already had the present threat level posted and no one hear said anything about death tolls. I know firsthand, many "teachers" enter all mediums of art and endeavor to pass along pertinent info through their work. "Does life imitate art, or does art imitate life". -Andy Warhol

THIS MAY BE OF CONCERN TO US ALL!

So, Mrs. United and I were driving around picking up the kids and there are chemtrails EVERYWHERE. We noticed that some of them were leaving vertical lines this morning. Yes a plane nose diving in the air and leaving chemtrails behind. We make our first stop to find that these little fibers (cotton like) are falling all over the place. I mean it's raining these things. Impossible to NOT breathe in these things. As I type, 2 trails are being formed side by side, right now to add to the several already up there. It's none stop! I'm gonna try this camera again,(hasnt been working too well) but its all we've got. Keep your fingers crossed. Pictures speak louder than words.

-United!

United my friend.....You gotta get a new camera. LOL! I still want to see your local fema camp.

THIS ABSOLUTELY CONCERNS US ALL MUST READ http://www.infowars.com/obama-and-acorn-gps-marking-every-front-door-in-america/

Not just your front door, your back door too. I brought this up a while back, will try to find again to provide links. Its crazy, how can we stop it? I say dont let them! Tell them how many people and move on. thats all they "NEED" to know.

-United!

Here is the link that shows the chemtrail pics I took today:

http://www.warnthepeople.org/ctrailpics.html

RE: Gun Without givin me ur 20....how far are u from the PA state line?

If you havent already seen this on infowars I have added it to the video playlist above. It may answer some of your questions as to why certain decisions are being made in our government as it pertains to the swine flu. NAU? It makes sense.

-United!

fuck nafta mexico canada the pope lordbuckwheat hell evryone and thing that aint america i know there is no such word as aint

hey all look around outside. i just had cruisers out at my place just sitting for a few minuts againe. they did this a while back too. with me its as brave as they get. like i dont know to look for the one that isnt readily seen. they want me to capp the first round so they can try to make me look nutty. they learnd from waco ruby ridge. they dont ubderstand they will not be around when it starts to make anything or body look l ike anything. when the scanner traffic comes to a dead silence and there seems to be a dirversion look the fuck out it will be on. they will make a move here soon i think. i dont take part in thiere game you know i belive that they will want me gone asap. but they cannot get it done. just follow the heads on stakes they will lead you to me. i hope to see yall come on out for the big win with me.

Aint my flag. Actually "aint" was added to the dictionary a few years back so I guess that makes it a word now. Then again, they've added a few ebonics words too. Word.

RE: GHG and J Stay cool Bro....your good book says patience is a virtue! I posted a day ago about a convoy of military vehicles; camo with red half moons cruising up East on PA Turnpike near Harrisburgh. Dont know what it was....I believe the red half moon is Turkey but no idea. Listen, run daily Spyware scans or whatever you use. Seems since the military DOS attack on infowars I've been picking them up tracking cookies in droves and I have not changed my routine at all. Run it every morning and had 72 yesterday. Ran it this morning and all clear. Computer seemed slow and just ran it. 39 in 7 hours! Someone seems awfully curious. Also, I personally know of one confirmed case of swine flu down by me.

Re: Shadow

Its Not Mine Either!, was meant to be sarcastic

-United!

RE: United Lol I took it exactly as you meant it Bro....all about sarcasm! Seems I have been banned from posting comments on Yahoo Buzz News and my Yahoo account has been acting weird all day. I never posted ANYTHING offensive. Posted relative material to the topic but from an informed view devoid of false left/right paradigm. Maybe I promoted infowars too much. Between the tracking cookies and this, I believe I've become sick of computers. Can North Korea reach Silicon Valley?! Smoke signals anyone?!

RE: J Seems they don't even have to get outta the car. They only have to be within 40 feet of the front door. My neighborhood is mostly twins so from where she was parked she could most likely grab coordinates for 4-8 doors easily and move on down the way. Very unassuming.

Well we're shaking things up a bit in Los Angeles 4.4 to be exact. The wind is howling, the sky is eerie, from a clear day to this, everytime they spray those chemtrails this happens. But yesterday there were a ton in the sky. There is no doubt in my mind that they control the weather.

re: ghg
Here's the link to the slideshow again:
http://www.warnthepeople.org/ctrailpics.html

I'll get those over to you as soon as I can.

-United!

Re: Snatchum

Im trying man. I got the chemtrails up on a slide show, I did lose the pics on a corrupt file of the tea party but got the End The Fed protest pics, just havent been able to get it finished yet. As far as the FEMA Camp goes, we went by there and its a regular prison but also used for deportation purposes. Heavily secured facility! Its way out on Terminal Island and we got there, by the time I opened my car door there was a security guard in a pick up approaching us immediately, then another that followed. I pretended to be a tourist and they told me how I could find out more about the prison, Charles Manson was there at one time blah blah blah. So I thanked them and left and was followed for about 8 miles out until I hit the interstate. Its on the list of FEMA camps but it looked like a regular prison and probably closed to visitors on Saturdays. The facts that I was met quickly and followed for a while leaves me wondering though.

-United!

ok shadow iether you seen way too many fighter moviea or you been aroundem so wich is it.

Re: Shadow

Thanks for the chemtrail pics. Starting up around here again today. I'll see if I can get more pics. We gotta do something about these. Still waiting to hear from california skywatch.

-United!

I never see chemtrails in the skies over Southern Oregon...I have witnessed them everywhere else though.

The swine flu is not in my state at all.

Oregon is a no hope "dem" state.

My daughter is in kindergarten...She came home from school in November talking about a movie she watched at school about Obama.

She Told me her teacher said Obama loves her.

She came home with a coloring assignment of Obama's portrait.

Last week they had the police at their school coordinating a "lock down" drill....We were sent a flier confirming that they did this after the fact. WTF!!! I am going to the school to raise hell on Monday.

The people walk around this town like zombies....They don't think anything is wrong. If I talk "truth" lately...I am looked at like I am from another planet!

SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS.SOS!

Re: Snatchum

I may be able to offer some sound advice here. Going to the Principal will most likely result in him/her having a conversation with the teacher about how she rolls out her curriculum. You may also request that your daughter not participate in assignments of that nature or at least be notified in advance.

As far as changing policy or to demand explanation of why there is an importance placed on lockdown drills, your best bet is to visit the district office and speak to the Superintendent as it wont be just that school participating and completely out of the principals hands. Whatever complaint you bring to the principal, it will be given secondhand to the Superintendent anyway.

It might also help to see if there are any other parents that object to these things as well and go voice your concerns as a group. Reputation is HUGE to them, as it directly relates to how much money they get from the government for their distract, the others being test scores and median income of people living in the surrounding area and attendance.

If you choose to keep your daughter from school for any "real" length of time they can fine you and involve social services. They get paid by attendance so you may want to consider that option with more parents backing you up.

If all you are doing is seeing to it that your daughter isnt subjected to this type of learning, they should be able to accommodate you. If you are fighting for it to stop completely for all students your in for a battle for sure. As far as the lockdown, I think its a great opportunity for them to HAVE to admit what their concerns are.

Hope this helps, keep us posted.

-United!

Obama has gotta be the dumbest man on the planet http://www.dailypaul.com/node/91690

United & gun, thanks for the advice. I was thinking of saying something along the lines of...I appreciate her teacher trying to instill good morals into the students but would appreciate more that she would leave her political views out of the material. I intend to be calm and level headed. If I am asked to leave, I will (after making an appointment). If you guys think this is a bad idea, let me know. About the "lock down". A few years back, a young boy wandered off school property and was found dead in an irrigation canal. That is the reasoning for the drill. The timing of the drill and forced vaccination on the horizon, is what raises my suspicion. I would like to be notified before these things take place so I can observe. I'm not being freaky paranoid. I don't even fully object to the drill, as long as I can view it. It's a public school. They shouldn't be allowed to deny me of that.
I know if I'm not careful, I will make myself a target and probably receive a visit from social services, and like gun said end up in jail.

Snatch i asked United about those foreign troops already here in the U.S. what have you heard? Thinks its chinese special forces etc...?

RE: J & Stand United

I read somewhere that Portland Oregon, had a drill that halted traffic for 2 hrs last week. "they" were wearing unmarked blue uniforms and spoke with an accent. I can't remember where I saw that though.

Check out this article from Oct. 2005 hmmmmm?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/121005slamsbush.htm

RE: Snatchum n United I envision the same scenario and this was just a beta test. This Fall is gonna be the HOTTEST on record(we call it "white-mans summer";)! Actually could use the extra time for final prep. Ahhh....one last good summer....gonna enjoy every second of it with my kids. Thinkin I'll get married too. Everything just seems to be falling into place. Its been a good life n def the strangest one I've ever known.

Hey Soloist, welcome back! Those chemtrails are bad news. I have some emails out there to a couple people that might be able to help us figure out a way to make them stop. The big thing with me with the chemtrails is I lack energy, Mrs. United breaks out and several people have reported to feel just plain sick. its strange that we all noticed an increase on the same day and now they have slowed down.

***idea***

Maybe we should start keeping track of when we notice these things as a way to see if there is any connection from state to state, along with what is going on in the news at the time. Any patterns? Prove the motive and we might be able to do something about them.

We all see these chemtrails but the other night was obviously different. Way more of them.

What do u think?

United!

I am convinced that the virus scare is a cover for an attack on 2nd amendment rights. Not that the virus will not be used in the future, but this time it's being used as a disguise to attack gun rights. Numerous gun laws are being introduced at the state level all across the country instead of at the federal level which is what most of us are paying attention to. Keep an eye on NRA.com to see what these rats are planning! The treaty is also a distraction. Nobody will go for it. But it is absurd enough to get our attention, taking our focus off of our state gun control lobbyists.

About to launch the Battlegrounds officially and need your help. If I may ask, could I get you guys to offer some feedback on the forums there? It would help get it started. It's still a bit of a work in progress but I feel the need to get everyone at least moving in the same direction. We have too many causes and too many people trying their own efforts. I suppose, I'm one of them BUT this is a way for people to come to one place and get involved with the same causes in hopes it builds momentum. Thanks for any help you can provide. Here's the link again:

warnthepeople.org/the-battlegrounds.html


-United!

heavens on fire

hells bells
all along the watch tower

sky pilot <animals>

paint it black

die mother fucker die

pocket full of shells?

puff the magic dragon

blu oyster cult dont fear the reaper united of course theese are just some suggestions of a phyco loloao

Re: J, I am on the South Carolina coast. I know that the military flies missions to train at sea but these choppers are not outfitted for sea rescues nor did they bear the coast Guard signs.

I also saw a small convoy of tow trucks towing Military personal carries, all in full camo forrest camo and new tires and new gear and chains hanging from the sides. By the time I got the digi cam out we had to turn off and could not follow close enough these I saw on the back roads of South Carolina today.

I wonder what it was none of the trucks towing them had any visible government plates and one was a Kentucky plate. I will keep my eye out for things out of the norm and i also will keep a log of things I made the other day but I will do it the old fashion way pen & paper...

Hope you are all well and keep the faith....

i think we all owe nuzz some aplause as i belive that she was behind the pushing and feeding united pertinate info on the grand jurry and the treason indictments for the lord buckwheat. and helping united get that to the battle ground. thank you so much. i will be in touch with them as i would love to see the look on my sheriffs face when i show up with that envelope. and our local judge. both of wich hate me more than 100 men can hate. i will be arrested that day i am sure.

i will be wearing my three corner hat. fuckem

shadow sent me a video of lou dobbs the other day and i just about puked. buckwheat wants other govs to trie us for owning guns. when will it be enough? peacefull is an illusion and no longer an option. just the facts maam

i spoke with shadow tonight and he reminded me to listen to aj and it is a riot for real he has called the whitehouse lastnight on air and left like a five minut message for the retreds. you got to hear this i laughed my ass off. secret servise will be at his house mon am. he may be a thing of the past. trust me those jackoffs are not clowning i know from experiance.

also make a not of the position that you see it direction of travel what is the aversge altitude then go to a small airport ask to see the charts look to see how close to military airspace it was in where could it be coming from or going on those headings. were they under 500ft? did they seem to parralell the highway for any amount of time? did they change heading and alttude continuasly? i know i ask a lot of qs but i have a reason. and what days did you see them the weather temp ect.

Re: Snatchum

Good luck tomorrow, let us know how it goes.

-United!

Re: ghg

Make no mistake, I have learned a lot from NUZZ and it's safe to say she keeps us all on the straight and narrow. Let's get behind her on this and at least become a jurist. We need action in a big way and I cant think of a better way to accomplish our goals than by using what our forefathers set forth for just such an occasion. The system only works if the people get involved. Take what you know and hit 'em with everything you've got, LEGALLY!

-United!

We Must Take America Back music video has been added to the video list.

Thank NUZZ - great video!

-United!

great video loved it

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Thanks every one for the nice words....I appreciate all of you too!!

I have been reflecting on all of this for a moment and if nothing else comes of this ( which I know plenty will ) but all in all we can say that WE have become a better part of humanity in all of this.
WE the people can be very proud of the learning we have gotten and the compassion that has grown out of this.
KUDO'S to you all....

G H Gun....you should not be arrested as there is nothing unlawful about what the grand jury is doing....If you do decide to take this packet to your local officials be sure and ask Bob Campbell...for his suggestions as to how to present it...he really knows whats ,what. A intelligent man for sure and thanks to him this is going as far as it has.

and be sure to check out all the links that they have on the website...what a multitude of info there is.

I am particularly moved by Walter Fitzpatrick, Retired Naval officer...his criminal charge/complaint of TREASON...any of you that are /have been in the armed forces know what this means for this man.

till later,
NUZZ

Ok the ones I saw after looking into it for 2 days now they are AH-64A's and one is a very sharp looking smaller one not outfitted for combat like the others can be. All of them had the features I mentioned. And the things that I tried to notice was what looked out of the ordinary and what I described above was what I could peg on it. GHG the direction of travel is north and yes flying below 500 feet at two points but when I tried to take pictures like I said I saw the pilot look right at me as he veered out to see and just flew out like a bat out of hell.... Very weird indeed enough to make Mrs. adjus777 be like WTF was that? The only fly around the coast so far and I see them going next to the major highway going north. Other than that I will see what I can look into further. And I'm sure the chopper snatchum saw was like the smaller one I saw that was not like the bigger ones...

you mean to tell me that you did not know an apache when you saw it? man

did the smaller one hve a tail rotor like you might would pic in youre mind when you think tail rotor? there is a stealth chopper that i got wind of a few years back that is hard to describe the one i saw i am sure was an old prototype but there were no real ninety degree corners like the old coast gaurd dolphin or air wolf if you remember that that was a bell hellicopter i dont remember what model if the pilot looked right at the cam and rolled out that tells you something isnt right. when some one fears my camera more than my gun i fear them

The entire information on this complaint can be seen at

http://www.riseupforamerica.com/

and scroll down to the formal compaint.

By the way United Battlegrounds is the shit.

j is right comanche i couldnt remember that. and about the 64 and cobra are both much larger than many would think. not that they cant turn n burn but you would almost have to be a cave man to not know one.

nuzz it was allready2100 here befor i saw youre post i will call tomarow. you have my word.


guns do not exist it is a conspiracy theory. wink wink

united

ok i done it now.
i deleted the invite to the battl grounds and cannot seem to find it. please get me a vector i can decipher come on

Re: ghg
lol, here's the link
warnthepeople.org/the-battlegrounds.html

oh by the way ghg. A fellow patriot had some words of concern about you that I think you should read. Here's a link to the message:
http://www.warnthepeople.org/idontlikewherethisisgoing.html

-United!

regular george carlin there lol

BIG ALERT.....

ALEX JONES CHANNEL ON YOU TUBE WAS SHUT DOWN ..BY YOU TUBE...
LETS TAKE THIS AS CENSORSHIP....
WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY COMING TO.


NUZZ

Hi Nuzz,

Been watching it unfold and hearing what people have to say about it. Its gonna impact his numbers and ratings on the net too. I think the important thing here is to understand that our 1st Amendment right has gone out the window a while ago and the "leaders" don't give a rats about it either. Evil, they are just evil! Of course this happened right after Alex's call to the White House making it even more of a story. At least it's a good thing in that it may wake more people up to the fact our Constitution is under attack and has been for a while. Maybe it's better we don't associate with Youtube anymore anyway, aren't we just feeding the enemy by going there? Of course there is no better way to get a message out there or at least that's how it used to be. I don't know, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I say good riddens to YouTube and on the other end its the best place to get a message across. If they start censoring all Youtube videos, there won't be much to see around here either! This effects us all but I heard that infowars channel was back under a different name, let me confirm and I'll get back to everyone.

-United!

-United!

Re: Secure,

Thanks for this story. With Codex Alimentarius coming in December of THIS YEAR, if we do something now it might make a difference. The Battlegrounds has a blog dedicated to this topic, let's start gaining some momentum on this. If it can happen to this family, it can happen to ours! I have seeds all over the place on this site for a reason. It's that important! If they control the food just think about what that means for us all.

Please everyone, keep this up there on the priority list.

Here's the link to get involved:
www.warnthepeople.org/zcodex-zalimentariuszblogz.html

-United!

LOL u heard that?! AJs ma homeboy.... buckin to be a regular!

Yeah Gun that was me and that is my real name. Please fellas....no autographs ;)

WTF....my post didnt take! Yeah it was me.

No shadow knowing gun he clearly said lord buckwheat.lolol

Got an off topic question my shotgun wont cycle rounds from the tube to the chamber. When i try to put one in the main chamber then push the slide forwrard the hooks that grib the bottom of the shell get in the way. I remember when i was dry loading and unloading the gun those same hooks were gripping a shell and i had to push the shell downwards to get out of the hooks. now the elevator wont go all the way down to bring up a round????
any help

RE: J Is it a Rem 870? Are u using 3" shells in a gun that will only feed 2n3/4? Is it hi-brass or low brass ammo? Could be a tube spring....do you keep it cleaned n lubed well?

ok guys it seems inquireing minds want to know i did not not say lord buckwheat. as hard as it was for me for the first time since 4 nov 08 said the word president. i had to take a shower afterword and and drink a bottle of pepto and went to confesion for hrs. i am not catholic and never confes to anything. i did hear shadow on aj sweet i would not of course known it was you had we not spoke but giter qigidy qigidy qigidygoooo

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