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To those doubting then that states' rights had any future, post‐1970 trends have come as an ongoing surprise. The Rehnquist Court has revived the doctrine of state sovereignty in a number of areas, placing state sovereignty–based limitations on congressional power to enforce the Commerce Clause and section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, expanding the doctrine of sovereign immunity, and creating a Tenth Amendment–based “anti‐commandeering” limitation on congressional power to regulate states.
*excerpt from link below*

Please copy the following link and bookmark it. When you are in your study mode and have the time, revisit it. I believe many of the answers we are all looking for can be found within this information. Let's study it together and have a discussion.

http://www.answers.com/topic/state-sovereignty-and-states-rights

any body seen the snatch? SNATCH?!! what the hell happend to him? maby he was drinking the piss? i dont know. maby he got swat teamd for growing carrots. i hear nuzz has been under the weather.dont take the poison. i dont know what to say you guys arent fun since i quit drinking.we had snow flurries yesterday. man did that suck.i am so ready for spring. i ever tell ya i love construction? ya i work hard to be broke.kinda like farming.just without the good toys. well gm is on the way out today. if they want to break the union so bad why not buy out the membership? problem is when the union is gone the guys building the cars will not make enougfh to buy one. i cant go get shingles when i want here. the mfg is cutting back and not producing them if they have not sold them.so i have to wait till the 17th to get them of course that is after the increase. isnt that convienant? insurance companys dont even ask questions about why does this cost so much? they just ask was this the cheapest one you got? heres a check. think the tax payers are paying in the end? i also notice that the banks have foreclosed a lot have houses here and they are going to pot and kids are breaking in and vandalizing and who knows what. lots of folks i talk to cannot see past the bonuses. they just do not understand that is a diversion. myself i am trying to spend with mom and pops stores as much as is possible. using those that i know well for things that i might otherwise pay other subcontractors for i am worried that the fiat money will fall out soon so i am doing all i can now and just simply do not know what will i do when it hits the fan. as so far as what will i do with the family. well i am on the way to the barn to fill some sandbags

I feel love! Thanks for being concerned about me. I'm doing alright. I've been busy with organizing necessary supplies for the "Big Day". I have everything in plastic totes near the front door for an easy grab-n-go. A good size group of us have a designated location to meet. They don't know the depth of all of this, but when they smell sh!t, they know enough to not step in it! We will be heading for the mountains at the first sign of martial law, or any other unforeseen insanity. I have been in a crazy place the last few days organizing. It's one thing to get the supplies needed..It's another thing to actually pile it all up in the kitchen. It put me in a state of "The end is coming and it's coming fast". Now that I'm better prepared, I am more relieved. Anyway, I have been checking in here each day. Just haven't had the mindset to post. Thanks for looking out for me guys.

RE: Stand United

I agree. Things are moving fast. I feel like a boxer taking combination punches. It seems like an effort to confuse us so we can't focus on any one particular bill or problem. Allowing things to be slipped in, or covered up without much notice. I believe something is coming soon. I think that is why so many liberties are being attacked so fast. It's a short term plan with long term results.
Good job on the garden United. After all the initial labor...It's easy, fun and rewarding. Try and get the whole family involved.
I have most plants indoors still, under HID lighting. About two more weeks to go until frost is no longer a concern. They are looking real pretty though! I hope I will have the opportunity to harvest. Oh yeah...Your motto...True words of wisdom.

Hows it going John Prater?

Please watch the video above, regarding fema camps.

it is coming it is coming soon what the hell?

Here is the problem folks the (scoldfield bible) it was written back in the early 1900's by known liars and criminals from the country nobody can critize.Listen to the preacher tell how and why we have the problem we have today http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=2862
If we could find more honest preachers like this man we could maybe do some damage if we could get them to speak up. Also do some research on CI Scoldfield the man was truely an evil human being

Re: Snatchum

We;ll be watching to see what happens in Georgia. thanks for the info, I really think this is an angle that might just work.

God Bless You, for posting the Video concerning FEMA. What keyed my intrest is the info concerning China & Eminent Domain. I was researching the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and the 1st things that happened were # 1 Nationalization of Banks. #2 Nationalization of Industry. #3 Repudiation of Foreign Debt. Is that not exactly what we are witnessing here in the U.S.A.? They've already Nationalized the Banks and the Automobile Industry, will they shut down the banks before China can recall whats owed to them?

This is a pretty bold statement (fema video)especially considering there is no verifiable source. Is it an advertising gimmick? Scare the heck out of people to buy your $8,000 familypack? I mean really, one with a brain has to use it. If I saw this posted on a site that wasn't selling survival gear, then maybe I'd believe there might be truth to it. I am skeptical of this.

RE gods hired gun


Don't know about the Videos but DONT stop listening to Alex and I disagree with you on not buying guns and ammo. BE PREPARED. If you dont need it for the gov you'll need it for all the Illegals. God tells you to store food.

Another great site it www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ I'm not sure if it's been discussed here yet but if it hasn't, check it out and thank them. I pray it will be this type of people that will lead the calvery if and when tshtf.

I was born and raised in Brooklyn NY and thank god that i got out of that city 3 years ago. Everytime i visit down there i feel like it is a deathtrap. everything is so dependent on a very fragile system. Is there a map that has points where these Fema camps are so people know how to avoid them? or record them to show others etc.
I think the fact that crops wont be coming in this fall lends alot of credibility to this claim. Im putting a timeline for the STHTF around this fall. I call summer 09 the summer of love b/c everyone is going to be thinking that all is well and thats when the rug is pulled out right from under them. Not me Not my family

RE;EVERYONE

I can't stress enough how fast this will all happen when the word to shut down banking, martial law, etc. is given. Preparation is vital! Do prepare for more than one situation. Preparing necessities for hunkering down at home is only viable if you will not be bothered by gov. Lets face it, they WILL come. I am not saying don't prepare for a short stay at home. Do that, but also prepare necessities for on the go. That is a more practical solution considering what we know. During 9/11 the entire country was affected by by gridlock in large cities. All large cities, from the east to the west were affected. I'm sure you all remember. Knowing this and knowing that martial law would be fully operational within hours(3 max)gives you an understanding of how difficult it will be to get out of the city should be the starting point for back up plans. I apologize that I am all over the map when I am trying to say something, but I think you all get the point. Please don't wait to be ready. When it happens. You will be beaten at the start (if you have not prepped) and you will die of shame, not hunger or by being killed. A simple backpack full of power bars, a knife, and a water filter may save your butt long enough to link up with others. DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER!!

We ALL need to have an escape route planned out ahead of time from our individual homes to where ever we have chosen to meet up. preferably back roads if possible. Might be a good idea to already have at least one weapon buried at your meet up site. If you do get stopped trying to leave town they will deffinatly take your weapons,and maybe you too. This just makes me sick.... I've even entertained the thought of taking the max of my credit cards in cash, but that would be wrong as I know I can't pay it back. I'm on Soc Sec Disabilty so if the bank closes I wont have an Income unless I take their card which will probably have a CHIP. THIS REALLY SUCKS !

Hi Nuzz,

I was beginning to wonder where you were. Sorry to hear you havent been feeling well. Maybe I gave you my flu?? Not a day goes by that I do not see chemtrails. Right over me everyday well into the evening. So much so, I think Im beginning to mutate! I do know that this flu has stuck with me way longer than anything Ive ever experienced! See, we should've gotten the flushot! j/k of course. More and more people are meeting their neighbors so keep checking and emailing, it would be great if we could all find some safety in numbers close by. I hope you feel better and glad to see you are back.

-United

burn youre house when you leave. it will be a diversion.we are keeping almost all weapons at the rendevous piont. cell phones if they work will be tapped pre arange code words that are in common simple minded conversations. do not use names and or positions. always stay on back roads when possible. have a truck and i mean a 4x4 and a map see if you can cross country safly instead of using main roads. when you dicuse these codes and such do it outside the house with no cell phones. do not buy a new enough truck to have on star. i hope i dont need to explaine that here. best thing to do with the cells is tie them to a large dog from your hood and let him loose. i belive that a electromagnetic puls weapon will be used early on to disable all electronics. have map and compas and know americas rivers. study that map. if you intend to ride this out at home study that map anyway. no gps bullshit guys. i have had to face the fact that i will not be able to save all of my friends and family. you will not iether. they will not listen they will not prepare fuckem leavem sink. they will pull you down to the fema camp with them. i aint goin. you do what youre heart says you need to do.

nuzz i hope you are up and feeling better.
snatch i dont know what you are doin i see you came back for a minut. i can only guess that youre brain hurts right now.

in the words of gene simmons

heavens on fire

Hi everyone...thanks for thinking of me...I'm feeling a little better...some what.
Each time I watch theses films about the FEMA camps...my skin starts to crawl...and I have the gut feeling that we are right in our thinking about these camps.....I don't see that theres any other reasonable explanation for all that is going on.
Of course I saw on MSM that obama has sold us out to globalization...by pledging $'s for IMF..and other stuff.
He makes me sick to my stomach....this all makes me sick to my stomach.
I still feel so helpless here...I have not been able to get anyone else around me to see the urgency of this.What the hell am I suppose to do. I would sure feel better if only one other person here was working with me to prepare.
I can't even figure out if I should plan on taking my dogs, I love them so much but will they slow me down...or maybe be an asset as to danger approaching. My big dog is good at finding grubs to eat...she was a stray at one time, and she still digs em up to chow on.shes very brainy...sniffs out illness too.knew my mom had a hernia before we did.
I'm rambling again...this is no time for rambling...I have to admit to all of you...I AM SCARED>>>I feel something is coming...my gut...my gut never lets me down.
I was on the streets of Mexico a long time ago and every time trouble was brewing my gut would feel like this....and it saved my life many times.
But i am so much older and can't run like i used to...no strength.
WTF...this is america...what happened i keep saying...why are so many people being so blind...its all right there in front of us...I'm not that smart but I CAN SEE IT>
This weekend i am definatley getting my grab n go packs ready...thats my most priority...
I'm not even sure where my good buckknife is...havent used it in years...I dont even know where it came from...found it many years ago I think.
oh well...sorry for the ramblings ,but i know yoyu guys understand..keep in touch.
my love to all of you,
NUZZ

downtown dayton ohio 6-8 pm exact location to be announced also tea partys in clevland and cinciantie

I don't know about any of you but, if I were president of the United States I would do everything in my power to let all Americans know I was a US citizen. Unless of course, I was not!
Why do we tolerate the uncertainty? Why do we allow the complexities that discourage, and invite confusion? All things complex can be broken down to be simple if we don't let the wording guide our research. Ask your own questions.

Ok, Now I'm really confused. I just read all that Lawsuit stuff in the Call to Action. One of them is a Soldier Named Scott that says he doesn't have a blogspot site. Isn't that the guy that was on Alex Jones awhile back with the Oath Keepers site ? and if so then we don't have Soldiers standing up for us.Someone fill me in here PLEASE.

Oh my...how do I begin,

I have far too much to tell all of you about a PDF report that i purchased last nite and haven't been able to stop reading...except for right now...cuz I couldn't wait to tell what i'm reading.
I'm not sure where i first came onto the link to the website....www.visionrevisited.com , but i have had the home page info printed for a few weeks...and since it was a book or report they call it, to sell I am not quick to spend money...I always think about it for a while...didn't have any till now any how...any way, its all about the Anti-christ identity and whether obama is or not....well to cut the suspense they say NO. thats not the biggest part of the info in my opinion....its all the history and agenda and bloodlines and political positions held and why and the whole "kit-n-kaboodle" .It tells about each war and the reasons (in depth) as to why and who and everything...I can't give exact details cuz it to much....150 pages...but the cool thing is that when you purchase the report...they include as a bonus the 2 hour video...OBAMA DECEPTION"...( the link to watch it)..sure we already know that we can see it for free so its not a bonus for us....but it gave me a clue as to what "page " their minds were on.What i found out ( and keep in mind I am already aware of a lot) made my hair stand up on the back of my neck...OMG...I wish i could share it somehow...but they have big copyright issues...and I am not stepping on no ones toes in that regards.The only thing i can think of ...besides e-mailing and asking permission based on the need to know basis...is to make a video and read some of it and then send that to you on an upload...I wouldn't want to read all of it...but could find some key points....theres maybe 4o pages of the most important items how ever not all in consecutive order though.and i still don't know if that is copyright infringement.
the report is 25 dollars...and to me it was worth it....but no need in all of you spending that.

give me some ideas...are you interested or check out the web page...they give a little clue as to whats in the report...but it goes WAY deeper.if you want to know more let me know and maybe something can be figured out.

I am going to go finish the rest of it...only 20 pages left....i couldnt stop once i started...
love to all,
NUZZ

North Korea has launched their rocket. Emergency U.N. Meeting projected for Sunday. Will report in more detail as this story unfolds.

Your not alone, and were not alone.

I shortened it to nuzz....

i may start using single letter. when you send e-mails and post on sites all nite it gets old typeing in a name.
I have started the wheels of justice turning in AZ. I printed all relevant info...download the same, for starting a grand jury here in kingman....I sent the few people I knew from Az,an invite to join me.

at this point I will try anything lawful, moral,or seems reasonable.

Throw enough logs on the fire, eventually some thing will spark up...thats what they do in washington....they just throw chit out there to see how far it will fly....ooohhh..BRB...got an e-mail, crap one of the addresses was wrong had to correct it
I am fading fast today.....somebody send me something funny to rev me up again...I'll get my second wind.....I am on a roll.

luv ya,
NUZZ

how about if we just issue arrest warrants for them?

howdie do hired gun...

u are such a riot...this is more of the trumped up smokescreen i think...and Obama is trying to sound all tuff and chit...callin out the UN security council and demanding Nkorea cease what they is doin' and don'do it no mor man...i mean come on..he almost scraped his nose on the ground bowing to the SAUDI King...almost fell too. Woulda been a hoot if he had. He has less etiquette in his body than i have in my right earlobe.
Bush was never this much funny...it took a few years for people to start laughing at him...hell with Obama its only took a day into office...couldnt even geta damn oath right to swear in.
this guy is a monkey beyond all chimps...
hey did you chack out any of the videos links i put up.If we can form enough grand jury's we could find evidence to indict the whole shittin match over the banking frauds.
and i think the idea behind closing the banks down soon...will be to cover their lying asses. if they stop the currency it will be harder to prove the crimes.especially if they pull a major 9/11 and pull all the buildings.kaboom!!!they all have got some set of cracked up balls hanging and pelosi,& hellory clinton too.
they begin to look like the men next to em".
i will check back later

stay safe,
NUZZ
ps...gun what u saddling up????

that was weird...it posted all by itsself. before i could write anything.

hired gun....give people the webpage to check out, its hard to just explain what the grand jury is all about.its not to be taken lightly. And its not set up for little BS...like your truck issue.
it is however one of our last resorts efforts and its an education that i never was taught in school about it.

and georgia doesn't go arrest any one they are pushing thru the Indictment.
study the information...its very powerful stuff....supercedes ALL other departments of government.....even the PRES> dude.
But its a big responsibility and as usual the people that won't listen to you.....are too busy watching the grass grow.

take care,
NUZZ

you guys are holding out :o). Need to know more about the "Grand Jury" idea please. Can you head me in the right direction? Thanks, I'm intrigued and have the day to myself to do some serious research. We have to find answers, we just have to!

stand
i heard a few years back that dukes was really marketted toward reneck hillbilly hicks. i gota say i am a hick but take redneck as insult now. but that silly show was good clean entertainment. i will learn a new song soon

If logistics wasn't an issue
If their weapons weren't an issue
If the amount of people that would actually stand up, wasn't an issue
If a new system was in place to replace the current one

If all the obstacles were eliminated

What would we do?

What is the right thing to do?

If we do not let them cloud the real issue of defending freedom, we can begin to see what must be done. All of their "obstacles" can be dealt with. Not only must we do this thing right, we must do the right thing.

wow alex jones plays dukes theme song 2 hrs after i quote it here. i must be phycic

AMERICANGRANDJURY.ORG IT MIGHT WORK BUT DO WE HAVE THAT MUCH TIME ?

i am back....
The idea in my opinion...is that we might as well start this...the man in georgia got it done in two months...his web site is

www.riseupforamerica.com

and he did the website with all the info right there to get started...he had it start to finish(24) hours.
it will still be a great addition to our system in the great event we keep our goverment in check and we recieve a miracle from the heavens...and the S--t does'nt hit the fan and all is fine...the power elite dry up and blow away on the wind....you get it...but best case senerio we will need this once we get back total control anyway.

in the mean time lets try any thing ....its a great learning experience too.

i think i have a good chance to find all the people i need here.this they might wake up too.

got work to prepare for handouts so later,
luv ya all,
NUZZ

I have many e-mails

kissingger guns my typing

hey if any yall are in ohio email me maby we should meet.

SNATCH!

the violent video games gave desenatized me i am in a homocidal trans just slobering with an itchy trigger finger. i have thought a couple of days and come to think of it fuck those cops good i hope thiere family gets it too i do want a shooting war i want to do it. lets go fuck that nigger lord buckwheat when this happens i will be like a teenage girl at a hanna montanna concert dripping wet. foaming. i want to put heads on stakes. my only problem will be not going to far and eating my enemy just to get the point across. i am so friggin pissed that i almost can not containe myself. and another thing all the pussys out here that will not particapate fuck them too they are the enemy worthy of the enemy combatant lable. pray yall i tell you that it is close it will not be long before they move against us with tanks tropps and air support and then you may wish that you were near me. if the get me i will have no ammo no arrows and will have dropped my k-bar got both arms broken and they will still need a tank and i will be bitting one of the tracks.
i suggest that when this starts you be more violent and unprecedented in the doing them every day take the nasty to a higher leval each day.

Nuzz and i read you talking about kingman ....kingman is not safe do some research our TRAIN station got alot of money a while back to do some "remodeling" to alot of the tracks and stuff hmmmm wounder why that is???? lmao. we are also right on I-40 and we are also smack dab between two major cities Pheonix and Las vegas so they will use kigman as a refuling stop! Also have you noticed all the helicopters around our airport lately....hmmmmm wounder about that one too! and oh yeah cant help but mention over the past 3 years a rise of cops that is just down right ridiculous they roll around in there unmarked cars that look EXACTLY LIKE CIVILIAN CARS!! This town is by far NOT SAFE!!!!!

P.S and 1 more thing i too witnessed the really REALLY bad chemtrails the last few weeks and I TOO FELL ILL with a flu that i have never experienced in my life which my mother got aswell and had to go to fast trax to get down her 104 fever i too was running about 103 ......i havnt ran a fever like that since i was about 7 years old so it was very very odd! Her husband got it as well they are still sick by the way! And i just barely got well! VERY ODD VEERY VERY ODD! biengs what i seen in there air and all!

PANWO

oh hell bring the gerbal i might let him run up some ones ass and man the heavy gun hell i will have that bitch and runnin up on a patrol lightin up like the fuckin 4th of july screaming chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side the whole time i am getting phyced it wont be long now. cant wait to let congress walk home from 10,000 ft gerominooooooooo bitches. i got some good ideas for exacution of any prisoners. witch by the way i am pretty against bothering with prisoners immeadeat exacution is more my style. that is what they would do to us.i also propose we just run the rest of the world over when we get done here.start with mexico. put them in thiere place make sure the homos in canada understand then get the rest ofem. i am doing the chewbacca scream right now. snaych you should move to ohio we can be the lead element how bout ya? sounds like nuzz needs to ass the bird too seems they are getting nonstop spray out there. they want to get all the indians i quess. they gettin the lakota too i bet. fuckem i bet the cowards do them selves when they fique the game is up. it would suck being a bitch.punk ass motherfuckers. fuckem how long would it really take? we all hit the local fuzz at 1 time then move up to the state gov then all head to dc 3 days we can run the whole lot of them over.liberate a few hornets and baaaamm over. oh gotta go atf at the door

For gods hired gun i say when the SHTF there will be no place for RACIST TROLLS like yourself to hide any longer and Patriots like myself will love the sight of you choking on our BAYONET!!! No use wasting any 7.62 on ya its getting a little to hard to find...wink!You are commiting treason just like the F@#*$ doin this S@#$ So you better realize real quick if you think for 1 sec we will share our fox hole with such scum! Choose your words wisely!
keep your powder dry
GOOD LUCK PATRIOTS

PANWO

i bet you love lord buckwheat and want to be the keeper of the gueens shit.you must be one of the enemy combatants i referd to earlier.hoss you should discuss theese feelings of fear you have with the lord. they are a direct result of guilt.you are not the only one who fell for pc buckwheat ect,maby you should listen to glen beck and join 9-12. also be advised that 9-11 was not i repeat not an inside job. this is all a nightmare it is not real. just go down to camp fema and watch the ballgame. you will go to work and to the game and there will always be a grocery on the corner and a golf course and social security for you just trust lord buckwheat. goodluck at fema we will pray for you.

Prater, are you really this angry?

I am not here to argue just simply letting you know that if you think this fight is about removing the "BLACK MAN" (which he is guilty if treason) but or as you put it N@*#&$# from office or as you said the mexicans down on the border then you are sadly mistaken and if i am to share a foxhole with a fellow american like yourself i would just like you to be educated enough to relize the true enemy and watch your mouth!this isnt about race it is about some BILLIONARE'S THAT THINK THEY CAN COME IN AND CHOOSE THAT YOUR FAMILY OR MY FAMILY DOESNT CARRY THE SAME WORTH AS THERES!!!!!! And dont bring god into it you will meet him soon enough if these people get there way! This is a BATTLE FOR FREEDOM for your family and mine! so drop the BS and unite for the good of man kind and the CONSTITUTION and show your age and speak like an adult leave the bickering for the women! And drop the racist words and comments!! Thats all i was getting at didnt want to bicker its worthless wanna talk about shit that matters???like how many cans of food do you have? Have you planted your crops yet? Got enough ammo? Are you really doing anything......i doubt not.lol just rather argue and make racist comments! Choose wisely the line in the sand has been drawn!!!! Time is running out!

PANWO

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Well i see gods hired hand is on guard duty today....Nothing gettin me today, thank you gun for your care in this country...I have had stevie ray vaughan playing for 5 days solid....I slept less than one hour in that whole time. pots and pots of coffee and i keep turning the music louder.

thank goodness my moms alzheimers is so bad now she doesn't remember that she hates this kind of guitar...blues she says it hurts her ears...used to, like i said I think shes like 15 again....and shes been watching the music videos of him...man can he whail on the ax.

I wish we could have a lot of the great talent back here with us for this revolution....Hendrix , joplin, elvis,buddy holy and all the rest...they just made beautiful music and loved people...its people like that, like us , the true people...I am running out of things to say...Emotions have been like a roller coaster again.
I go thru this about once a week.

my dvd burner is wearing out and i need a new one and i don't feel I should spend money on stuff like....but i loike making my videos...and I was gonna do 100 for handouts at the laughlin river run to all the bikers,
I even got a FREE room and everything
I will figure something out....I will have the videos to give away and wake some more peeps up.
might be a good idea to have all the bikers...all ages ..all walks of life but they stick together...there will be a 7'000 plus people there and its a captive audience...perfect for this, most of them are probably on board already.
anyway..I gotta go get some smokes before they raise the price agin.

take care all and Ill check back later.
Nuzz

hey why do i do a post and it doent post you have that happen?

On monday night there was a 1min 47sec video on this webpage where a congressman was introducing HR8791. The video is no longer there. Could anyone give me the url to get that video? Thanks for any help

united i saw you at infowars today

ok panwo

i knew you would come around. i gota tell you that it might would be a bit strange foe some one half lakota to be a white supremacist.lol.
i have had the good fortune of moving around this great land.and the unfortune to see some of the worst. i went to ground zero in jan 02. there are no words.
i went to the wall. and it took several hrs to get myself together to get out of the truck.i never made it. i have been to several civle war battle grounds. i have been to wounded knee. there is an ora in the air in theese places. for lack of a better description. i have been to the reservation several times. do you know that the lakota freeze to death every winter. due to the govs ongoing assault on the native poeples of this land. they are withdwawing from all treaties with the us gov. and do plan to reclaim all all of thiere land. i have met randy weaver. the real one. i do want to go to waco some day. my point is that if you do some of theese things that if you or anyone that does does not become a foaming at the mouth 1 man mass killing machine they might see a dr.
i have three kids. i am worried, when i go to war again will they be ok i can only hope. it is then that i want this to go down now. i study war that my sons may study art and philosaphy.you get the pic?

pharmacutical companys and the fda are not our friends. know that. they are out to poison us.they are knee deep in mk ultra boeing lockheed monsanto h51 rex84 ect ect ect.
world domination is not my vision. world liberty is. but to get there we will have to kill a lot of simpledicks. my hope is to give the third world peoples the tools to become productive farmers and sell them all a chevrolet.and a american constitution. i am not an idiot it will not stop all fighting but it will not be like the wars of the 20th century.

i also want to tell all of us who really killed jfk. and mlk and a few other big secrets ufos lol we can all know if we just go take this back and put the crimminals all to a dirt nap.

this is where i need to break into song



crispy critters a good and wholesome bunch a low sugar cereal with lots a CRUNCH!!!!!!!

Whats new fellow Patriots?
Yesterday was a rough day with some misunderstanding. I'm glad to see things back to normal here.

Nuzz: Good job with your hard work on the handouts. It's huge! You ever wonder about the deaths of Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, Presley etc..? hmmmm

Prater: You are still the man! I wasn't sure where you were going with your comments yesterday. My gut said you were pissed off and venting. Thanks for clarifying that. My father is a civil war buff...I've been to Gettysburg a few times when I was a kid. "The Wall" in DC, and ground zero as a volunteer for a week. I know the feeling your describing.

PANWO: I already have dibs on a foxhole with Gods Hired Gun. We can make it a threesome...I'll bring the gerbil:-)

hey yall i listen to oracal broadcasting i found here from 10pm est and the fella got me thinkin about aj. talking about how many jesuits he has on the show. he never says a word about the pope jesuits at all. man i am a bit worried about that. it is an important aspect of what we are fighting.

Re:gods hired gun

Any guesses why you may see me at infowars? I've never mentioned it before because it isn't me to judge people, but although I have learned a lot from the information provided by Alex Jones, I can honestly say from my gut, something ain't right. Just a gut thing, don't know what else to say about it right now. Just trying to stay focused on what we got going on right here.

Has anyone noticed how much of what we are fighting against is showing up on the MSM? Fema camps, citizenship of obama, HR1388 and how its "not mandatory"? New World Order, NAU, NAFTA super highway, the list goes on and on...... A year ago, you didnt hear of much of it at all. We are gaining ground and they know it. Going out of their way to discredit information so people will think its just made up stories, a bunch of hogwash. I say we get them from all angles. A little tea bag here, a protest there,a law suit, some civil disobedience mixed in. Everyone planting their gardens, exercising their 2nd Ammendment rights, states declaring their sovereignty, people waking up and demanding truth and their freedom! Can anyone else see that they are beginning to realize that THE PEOPLE are a force to be reckoned with? They will continue amping up their efforts which means we need to amp up ours even more. They will not bow down quietly, we all know that, so what does that mean? The realist in me has two perspectives on that. 1. I realize that we are out gunned but maybe not as much as I think and we have to figure out a way that it doesn't get to that. 2. I also realize that it may come down to a bitter fight in which case, we'll need a bigger fox hole and may I suggest byog?

I will defend with my last breath my family and my fellow patriot under any circumstances. I am not a man of violence and I can put up with a lot. Provoke me though and I become a different person. Each time this has happened has been when my family has been in danger. I've never had to fight for anything I have in my life. never had to go to war. I owe this fact to great veterans like my Dad who fought in the Korean War and my Grandpa who fought in WW2. They fought so I wouldnt have to and for that I am eternally grateful. I say here and now, if there is a way to take back our freedom without violence - I will do everything in my power to find it. If I fail, I will protect my country to ensure a future of freedom for every American standing with me and for future generations to come, By ANY means necessary!

-United!

Re: Preparation and Consolidation -Panwo/Nuzz et al.

This website is really looking good with lots of info. I've been sending my BIL here. One small comment: he's been directing others to watch the Obama deception here since that is a small slice of alternative media most people can readily digest if they are just becoming aware, however, I would like to suggest you keep it at its regular size or put it on the other video page. I like the music file but it crowds out the video space on that page. Also, I was really encouraged by the people in the Fema Update video and them talking about the West coast!!! Let's hear it for the WEST-ENDERS!!!

My BIL and I are working on flyers he will be sending out in his area of Sacramento. They include: this forums site address, 3 youtubes and a general message.

My computer really slowed down the last few weeks. So I haven't been on that much. I'm not tech savvy and have to wait on geekguy to do the propers.

Presently, I'm isolated where I live and I don't mean in a rural way. Wish it was!
I've moved to the Pacific NW and have no connections. Not that I ever had many before but I've become more discouraged and isolated.

I was admitted to the hospital and had a 2 day stay due to exhaustion and weakness, heart palpatations. It really scared the hell out of me. I'm not in shape - that I know but I didn't know I was dangerously Anemic, and was surprised to learn how severe a thing Anemia can be in the long run.

With severe Anemia you have to get alot of Iron in you over a very long period of time for it to make a difference and to change your hemoglobin scores. Hemoglobin essentially helps to transport oxygen throughout your body and to vital organs. My count is very low. My heart is working overtime and I am fatigued.

So, I'm trying to do what I can to address my crappy lifestyle, lose weight and keep stress levels low...and not to get too graphic I have very heavy periods which is strange because for several years I went through not getting them. I'm 46 and thought I was going through early peri-meno. But in the last few years its been just the opposite. All to say, I have a lot to work on.

I need to try to keep things really simple. I have many concerns. One, while I have the most endearing spouse, he is so busy at work almost 7 days a week and takes the car. I'm grateful for this job as he was out of work for 2 years prior to us moving here. And he is working so much now in case there is a layoff. But that leaves me without a car pretty much all the time.

He's also has no energy left over to sink his teeth into being aware, prepared and consolidating our energies into an effort for crisis preparedness. I'm more than a little concerned! I'm doing what I can but lack mobility. He knows things are happening but if I try to really talk to him about it all it overwhelms him. I'm sure I lack the verbal skills to impress upon him the urgency.

Here's my utter most concerns, please, I need feedback.

I have a college age son in Orange County, I'm concerned about. He's alone, no family nearby. I want him to be able to have some SoCal or West coast connections when this thing goes down.

I don't know the lay of the land where I live, in fact, it is very foreign to me. The car is old, a '95. Also, have no nearby connections or friends. I'm in the pacific north west.

I'm not sure what foods or supplies to prepare. How to store them, etc.

My spouse, how to talk to him so he will listen and not be overwhelmed.

Money is an issue. We have a rental in Calif (non rural) and credit card payments to make. We pay a mortgage there(renter pays some and we pay the difference) on it and rent an apt up here.

We don't have many connections in Calif either. Scattered family members and most who don't want to hear about my "paranoid" concerns. My BIL and brother in Sac are beginning to wake up. They are struggling - my brother is about to lose his house, so he's got plenty of concerns right now.

I can't take on the whole worlds problems but my main concerns is having people to connect with near me and for my son.

I'm not interested in anarchy. Smart planning, knowing our rights and assembling lawfully & wisely is what I'm interested in.

So, those are my concerns. If we indeed are that close to a bank meltdown, tell me should I get all my cash out of the bank and then what would be the next logical step??

God Bless Everyone!!

ref to over loaded

even if you buy a case of canned goods each time you shop you can begine a stash of canned goods on the sly that even youre hubby will not notice right away.granted all that is genetic but better than starving. being in limited mobility would have to be difficult. as my only mobility problems are lazyness. i wonder about that rental you say your bro is about to lose his house a thought give the rental to him let his bank do what they will and jan 2013 start over. he pays the payment you dont worse case scenario you sell it to him in the end at a reduced price as he paid it for a while anyhow. and hey cars are out there cheap now. look i bought a 1996 buick from a grandma with 70,000 miles loaded package one owner mint car 500 bucks this spring they are out there if you will look around. i then bought a 3/4 ton 1996 suburban ready to tow and plow 1000 bucks good looking strong truck replaced my 85 suburban that i am still quite fond of. i can tell you that there are many wild edibls in the pac nw a ruger 10/22 survival rifle would be cheap and efective at taken smaller game and a single shot 410 or 12 gauge shot gun are also economical and priceless for survival hunting. my self i am learning to coupon after i saw a womon on some talkshow buy couple hundred dollars worth of groceries and walk out with them owing her twenty bucks!. and of course gardening and canning. raising some small farm critters and rabbits and the like. i also got a few of those ronco pocket fishermen to keep in the bug outs with a selection of eqyipment for them for survival fishing. also for an easy sneak off from work and throw a line in when my wife is not looking. lol as far as so cal just my opinion get the hell outa there it would take a heck of a lota money to get me anywhere near cali much less so cal with the war in mexico and the governator there. there are better and cheaper universitys anywhere outside cali also. we wil pray for you and yourse hope i made something tick for you. good luck to you

that was to nuzz...sorry takes me awile to respond lots to do....lots lots to do.

Ive just found another video on youtube about a guest that alex jones had on. he was an older reverend named lindsey williams talking about how some farms in colorado which produces about 40% of the nations crops will nto be growing anything this season. This is serious has anyone heard anything about this? cant this be the spark that sets everything off? 40% is a huge number. Also does anyone know of patriots in upstate NY im young only 21 and just have recently "woke up" from the mainstream media hoax. You guys know what ur talking about i just wish i had some brothers out here. Oath-keepers.blogspot is another great site. Im training to become an officer now and i want people to know that not all cops are bad. Keep up the fight!

to hired gun,

Yes my friend i get the picture and i get it very well. I ran into somthng i read today and i just couldnt say it better

All of us, who have ever sworn an oath to "protect and defend", knew that we were prepared to risk ourselves for the 'greater good' of our nation and way of life. We were prepared to be among the 'few who would carry the many' ... whoever or however they may have become such.

Our oaths were couched in phrases pertaining to flags and national icons ... but in our hearts we swore those words while the images of our families, our countrymen, homes and communities were first in our minds ... as it should be, and as it will continue to be.

Anyone who would swear an oath to serve a politician or political ideal above the men, women and children who are the heart and essence of a nation do not belong among our ranks, and they deserve both our scorn and wrath.

Our oaths, in our hearts, were sworn to defend and protect a way of life that respects the value of each and every human being, and the freedom, safety and honor each one of them deserves and is entitled to ... under law, under constitution and under the God we honor.

Politicians and bureaucrats may insist that, on the basis of certain words, our oaths were to them, not to the general population ... and they would further insist that our 'words of oath' are a 'contract' to serve the desires of the state ... over and above the needs of the nation and the people who are that nation.

Not so!

The struggle that lays ahead differs from those of even recent history. Our oaths, sworn before to national concerns and safety, are now extended ...because the circumstances are extended beyond any we know in history ... because the conflict, now, is no longer with an identifiable 'enemy', in an identifiable uniform.

Instead, the 'enemy' is a shadow ... one that neither knows or respects geographical or political boundaries, one who flies no flag nor wears a uniform, and is one who hides in the dark behind front-men and paid puppets with important titles. What could define a “terrorist” more clearly?

We are told that our "enemies" are in caves in the middle east, or they are behind every corner here at home. None of whom ever seem to surface!

Those “enemies” who have surfaced, however, are clearly visible if our eyes are open.

Our real enemies are in the news each day posing as those who are our betters and saviors (according to them.) They are those who insist they have "the solutions" to the havoc we are now living through ... yet, strangely, also it is those same “saviors” who have been aggressively making that havoc worse daily!

Our enemies are closer than we think ... so ... easier to deal with them when the time comes to do so because a traitor deserves only one fate.

We have all heard that cherished military maxim ... "divide and conquer". It works ... always did throughout history.

The only defense is to "Join and Conquer." The 'enemy' we face is a globalist elite who are relying on us fighting so much amongst ourselves that we cannot see who the true adversary is ... it's them and their names are on many lists ... be they in Washington, London, Ottawa or elsewhere!

Nancy Regan once said "Just Say No" ... to mind-altering drugs. We, now, must "Just Say No" to the mind-altering politics we're being assaulted with these days.

"NO SIR! I'm an Oath Keeper" ... the words of they who know the difference between a 'lawfull' and a 'legal' order.

Be proud to be among the few who remember and know what, and to WHOM, that oath applies!

RE: SNATCHUM....

YOU ARE RIGHT , SNATCHUM...I WOULD HOPE THAT OTHERS ARE TAKING TIME TO GET THE SURVIVAL SKILLS LEARNED OR SHARPEN UP WHAT THEY MAY ALREADY KNOW,.

ACTUALLY BEST CASE SCENERIO IS IN THE PROCESS OF WAKING PEOPLE UP , IT WILL OFFER A LOT OF EDUCATION AND INFORMATION ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
THATS WHAT DID IT FOR ME...IN WANTING TO FIND MORE OUT FOR INFORMING OTHERS , I WAS GATHERING MY OWN SUPPLY LIST OR OPERATIONS PLAN OF ACTION, AND ETC.

BUT I ALSO STILL SAY THAT THE MAIN ACTION IS TO TAKE OFFENSIVE / PREVENTATIVE / PROACTIVE ACTIONS...WE MUST BE READY FOR A DEFENSIVE MODE ,YES ,BUT IF (AND ITS A BIG IF )WE CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THE COURSE OF EVENTS , IT WILL BE BY #'S ,NOT SO MUCH AS BY SKILLS.OUR SKILLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT...AND AS A COMMUNITY , IT IS HOPED THAT WITHIN WHATEVER FEW PEOPLE YOU FIND YOURSELF...EACH ONE WOULD BRING TO THE MIX, A LEVEL OF INDIVIDUAL SKILL TO OFFER HELP TO OTHERS.
ITS A FINE BALANCE BETWEEN THE SELF SURVIVAL MODE AND THE CALL TO ALERT EVERYONE ELSE.

IF A BLDG. IS ON FIRE , YOU NEED TO GET OUT, BUT ON THE WAY STOP AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND YELL FIRE....YOU DON'T JUST GET OUT AND SAY EACH MAN FOR HIMSELF.

I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS.I AM NOT MEANING ANY OFFENSE, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT ALL THE GOOD INTENTIONS OF SOME OF THE NEWBIES TO BE DETOURED INTO THINKING THAT SHOULD BE THE MAIN COURSE OF ACTION.

I GUESS I AM JUST REALLY COMMITTED TO DOING EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS , AND IN THE PROCESS WE ARE EXPOSEING THOSE WHO HAVE FACILITATED THIS, KNOWINGLY OR AS A VICTIM THEMSELVES. HAVING AS MANY OF THE FRAUDS AND CRIMES AND EVIL DOERS OUT INTO THE OPEN IS A KEY POINT. WE KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHORT LIVED STRUGGLE....AND ,YES, THE WORSE IS PROBABLY YET TO COME , BUT ISNT ONE KEY POINT TO SURVIVING AN ATTACK..IS KNOWING 'WHO' THE ENEMY IS.
QUITE HONESTLY..IF THIS GOES ALL THE WAY AND THEY ARE COMING AFTER US TO GATHER US UP FOR THE FEMA CAMPS...THAT IS WHEN WOULD BE THE TIME TO HEAD FOR THE HILLS...RIGHT?...WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT FOR ME THATS THE MOMENT I AM NOT RUNNING...NOT WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THEY HAVE TODAY....HOW FAR DOWN DO YOU HAVE TO DIG SO THEY CAN'T SEE YOU WITH SATELLITE ...IT WOULD SEEM FRUITLESS TO THINK I COULD ACTUALLY HIDE FROM THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY AS ADVANCED AS IT IS. MY IDEA IS TO CHANGE THE MIND SET OF THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE TECH. SO THEY DON'T WANT TO COME AFTER US....NO FEMA CAMP FOR ME...I WILL BE SHOT FIRST...I CAN SURVIVE THE WILDERNESS ...NO PROBS...BUT NOT HIGH TECH LAZER WEAPONS OR WHATEVER....AND I AM NOT GOING OFF CRYING EITHER...NOW IF ITS A MATTER OF THE BAD GUYS ARE GONE AND WE HAVE A BARON WASTELAND AND I AM STILL STANDING THEN I CAN FIND MY WAY TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE....I HAVE BASIC KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS...THE TWO STICKS THING (I DID IT WHEN I WAS YOUNG ) BUT I NEED A MAGNIFIER GLASS NOW...MY HANDS COULD NEVER LAST LONG ENOUGH TO CREATE ENOUGH FRICTION FOR THE STICKS...THATS MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IN SURVIVAL IS HAVING THE STRENGTH AND AGILITY....BUT I HAVE FOUND WAYS TO ADJUST...LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND CAN FUNCTION....MAYBE A LITTLE SLOWER BUT THEY CAN.
OK I HAVE GONE ON LONG ENOUGH ABOUT THIS.

RE; J....LINDSAY WILLIAMS IS VERY CREDIBLE AND HE DOES KNOW WHAT HE TALKS ABOUT....SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO FUTURE EVENTS WILL HAPPEN TO SOME DEGREE...BASED ON ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO THWART THEM....BUT IF YOU PLAN FOR THE , AND HOPE FOR THE BEST...USUALLY SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE TWO WILL OCCUR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY (NOT THAT I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS ) MY E-MAIL IS :
passaro@npgcable.com
I am always willing to forward any and all that i can suggest that will give as much info in the least amount of time and effort. Survival skills are more up snatchum...or...gods hired guns..alley,
the Who, what when and why are more of my line of information gathering.
and I have no other direction or distraction in my life right now ...and i am on my PC 22/7 the other two hours in the day are for feeding me, mom, and the dogs....and sorting out my stacks of printed info.
My hat is off to you , at your age most people are so "asleep" for so long now its very hard to get the hypnotic state of mind broken thru. unfortunately one of them is my 20 year old daughter, i desperately worry about what will happen to her.I gave her up for adoption when she was born....I was in no position to care for myself ..much less a child. But I went the OPEN adoption path so that when she wanted she could find me and her birth father.
two dfays before her 18 birthdAY...I found her and contacted her...leavung it up to her...well needless to say we have been in touch ever since.she has visited me and is at this time living in phoenix, to be close to her birth father....she infatuated with him....just a daddy's girl at heart.
I was too...so I get it.
But they both think I am a little 'OFF' my rocker about whats happening. I am on them all the time with a bit of info here and a little bit fr

Re: J

Regarding the produce shortage that is coming. It's fact. Most small farms will not be able to afford the cost, as well as many medium sized farms. It's a matter of the cost outweighing profit.
Which is closer? Catskills, Adirondacks, Albany, Syracuse Rochester, Southern Tier, or Buffalo?

Thanks for the reply everyone its always good to know the facts.
RE. Snatchum
I live about 20 minutes north of albany in Amsterdam NY.

RE. nuzzelfut
I sent u an email let me know if u got it.

It is ridiculous how people do not want to realize the truth. Does anyone recommend a survival book that teaches basic skills. Not just firestarting but basic edible plants etc. Also it seems that albany is enacting a law which limits ammo purchases to 50 rounds and u have to register ur gun name address and purpose of the ammunition in order to buy it. You wouldnt beleive the shortages around here. I have been buying all i can but if im not on top of it, then it is gone before i even knew it hit the store. If these arent signs that they want to limit our possesion of firearms then i dont know what is. Keep up the fight!

RE: snatchum

TRUST ME I THOUGHT OF THAT AND THAT WAS WHY I MENTIONED IT....

TODAY IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE A WASH OF DESPAIR IS LEERING OVER ME.

I AM DESPERATELY TRYING TO FIND SOME ONE...ANYONE CLOSE TO ME (IN KINGMAN) THAT CAN HELP ASSIST ME....I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SURVIVAL SKILLS....BUT HOW DOES A WOMAN ALONE WITH AN ELDERLY MOTHER WHO HAS ALZHIEMERS MANAGE TO PULL IT TOGETHER SO I COULD BEGIN THINKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL STRENGTH IT WOULD TAKE TO CARE FOR MYSELF...MUCH LESS HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT MOM....I CAN'T GO WONDERING AROUND IN THE 'HILLS' WITH MOM....I CAN'T EVEN LEAVE THE ROOM WHILE SHE'S AWAKE.

I AM DOING THE BEST I CAN.AND I THINK I WILL STOCK UP A LOT OF 'STRIKE ANYWHERE MATCHES???? THATS THE NEXT BEST IDEA I HAVE ...MY HANDS CANNOT HANDLE THE STICKS STARTING PROCESS. I AM NOT EVEN SURE THE TWO ROCKS FLINT STRIKE WOULD BE POSSIBLE?
SNATCHUM YOU ARE SO SWEET...IT SEEMS...
AND I KNOW YOU WERE NOT BEING A SMARTASS.
YOU ARE A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON...YOU'RE FAMILY WILL BE VERY BLESSED WHEN THE TIMES ARE ON US FOR THE TOP SKILLS TO SURVIVE.

WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE YOU HERE IN OUR FORUM....TY.

RE; J

YES I GOT YOUR E-MAIL..I WILL RESPOND THIS EVENING WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO DIGEST IT....

GODSPEED,
nuzz

We have added to the open forum a
printable Warn The People Flyer.

Thanks for your help on this Nuzz.

Please distribute at will.

-United!

RE: United....

If I had to fill in that blank with one major point of referance it would be....

THE G-20 SUMMIT.ALL THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA EVEN HAS IT...THE NEW WORLD ORDER...AND MORE REGULATIONS , THE BANKS FRAUD BROUGHT OUT BY WILLIAM BLACK ON BILL MOYERS JOURNAL. THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE TOTALY IRON CLAD.

nuzz

Re: Nuzz and (J-some recommended survival books). I agree with Nuzz on the United's question. If the people believe MSM...Feed them MSM!

Nuzz, I feel for you. I think to myself
daily, how difficult it will be for me to provide for two, 6 year olds and my girlfriend and we have a large group to help with everything. I can only imagine what kind of thoughts you have regularly. I am on my lunch break so I can't type long right now. I do have a good amount of survival experience. I have always put myself into survival situations on purpose..Even as a kid. I do it to test myself. Why? I don't know, but I do it. I want to help you but I don't know what to do (because of the distance). I do have a couple of books to suggest that may be helpful. They are not field guides but they are large survival books with basic and advanced techniques. "Survival Wisdom and Know-How" by Black Dog publishing. "The Big Book of Self Reliant Living" by Walter Szykitka. "The SAS Survival Handbook" by John 'Lofty' Wiseman. I don't know of one book that has everything. These three are close though. You may want to pick up a field guide also in case you are forced to the hills. Fire by friction is of course a last resort. Matches are a good choice (dip the heads in melted wax to waterproof them). Some new high tech flint strikers even come with a chemical tinder bundle in the handle. They last a long time and do not require a very hard grip. Magnesium with flint also lasts a long time but will require more hand strength.
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you. If you have any questions on anything "survival" don't hesitate to ask. It's my passion.
P.S. The television shows like Survivor Man are ridiculous. Survival is not eating a few bugs a day. That's prolonging certain death. True survival is the ability to last for an unknown period of time. Its all about balance.

I just stumbled onto this.
Go to craigslist, type in your city, click on the politics tab. You will be brought to a forum section using ads to communicate with people from your area! I haven't tried it yet. Be careful.

P.S. snatcht thanks for the books. Even though i want info on outdoor survival, which book is more geared to survival at home, in a city etc..

also to everyone im interested in what people have in the way of firepower and ammo. if this is a sensative area anyone is more than welcome to email me. Iamdlaw55@aim.com

I understand this is not something that has happened to any of us before. We don't know from experience what to prepare for. If we look at the past, we can get a pretty good idea though. Were the police protecting people and property during the 1992 LA riots? No! They retreated and the neighborhood was on fire. How about the civil rights riots? Harlem 1964, Watts 1965, Detroit 1967 etc. What do these semi-controlled riots have in common? The rioters had a vision and they were banded together. The civil unrest we are about to see is much different. The only thing you will have in common with people in the unrest to come is survival. You or them. Everyone will be out for themselves. This will be spread throughout the entire nation from Large cities like NYC to small ones like Fallon, Nevada. Your home will be a target for stealing food, water, weapons, clothing, fuel...You name it. People will see the need to form groups to get what they need. Good as well as bad groups. Use your imagination. People will become animals. Your homes will burn, you will witness murder, rape, robbery, assault, vandalism daily.
Please think about this. You will not be safe at home. I know what I sound like. Don't think I haven't thought of this before I started saying it openly. If people don't have what they need they WILL take it from you, by whatever means they see necessary.

Snatchum:

Do you have any thoughts as to how they will attack us? Something just tells me that it isnt going to be nuclear. Biological or chemical probably. s Ive said, we are in a big city and living off the land or finding a rural area within 200 miles will be virtually impossible. An old abandoned building to hide out in maybe. Industrial complexes in smaller towns just outside the big city maybe. Maybe the sewer system like in the movie the 12 monkeys. No use for a 4x4 thinking smaller like an atv or even better, something quiet. There are too many buildings for them to man them all. Protecting what ya got is going to be key, couldnt agree more

Snatchum:
HAARP is a big possibility and I agree they will make it seem like they are helping you like you said. Coming up with a rel plan for living in the big city is no easy task but can leave several spots to hide out in. Trouble is finding out where they are before you actually need them. need to store stuff before hand because I think we will need to ride it out wherever we end up for quite a while. Ive got the supplies and the means to protect those supplies, I just hope I can move as quick as I'll need to. Buildings have alarms and security guards and such. Big city is where they'll focus their troops at first, more bang for there buck if you catch the drift. If we are lucky to get them to say, come to these camps so we can take care of you than that would be a cue to go the other way. If they raid us, it will be tough in such a populated area to sneak to a safe location. No communication, no warning is my biggest concern. Other scenerios I can work with.

It is with these obstacles in mind I am determined to take a proactive approach to try to stop it in the first place before it gets to this. I know you think these scenerios are inevitable and maybe my shred of optimism is unjustified, but I say as I have in the past, plan for the best and prepare for the worst. We need to approach this from all angles and seriously think about how we will protect ourselves in any situation and as you said, for an unknown period of time. As good ideas come up, I will try to create tools we can all use. Thanks for the book suggestions, my best case scenerio is I can make it to a spot hours from here and would be living off of our supplies and the land.

Thanks for all the resources you have shared. We could have proof positive, beyond a shadow of a doubt and we will still have people that won't believe us. I've come to this realization regretfully because some of my family fit into this category but what else can I do?

Also as nice as an AR or AK would be, 7.62 and 556 is scarce and very expensive. Besides the only people capable of handling that kind of hardware is myself or my father. Anyone else here would have the gun fall out of their hands after one round. the .22 was mostly for them even the shotgun has too much kick. i just installed a foldover stock on mines in case i have to break it down and tuck it in my BOB. Most def. tho another shotgun is coming. Gotta go to work so i cant write more. Take care everyone.

J, as Obama would say "Let me make myself clear", or at least let me clear up any confusion you may have. An AK is the same as "7.62". An AK is chambered for the 7.62x39 cartridge. The AR is chambered in 5.56 NATO. People nowadays refer to the gun they own by the cartridge since there are only a few common cartridges fired by these weapons (it's slang). Sig Sauer is the only company I am aware of that actually has a rifle named after the cartridge it fires (556) and you are right, it is over $2000.00. Regarding your firearms, they will work fine. The semi-auto .22 rifle will last for a long time (10's of thousands of rounds) as long as you keep it clean and oiled. Bolt, lever, and single shot .22's will last even longer. The shotgun is arguably the best all around defense gun. Hopefully we will never even have to fire one round. I know what you mean by NYS laws limiting you. I grew up in Western NY. They still have many laws in affect from the 1994 assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. I had a concealed carry permit in NY many years ago. I have friends that still live there with clean records and have been denied carry permits. I now live in Oregon. You only need a permit if you want to carry concealed. You can walk into a store and walk out with a pistol in about a half an hour. You are legally allowed to carry "open" here. Nobody does though. I love mountain people.

Hello all!

I have been following this site for a couple of weeks and I want to thank you for providing this place to find information. And it is a haven know that there are others out there who see the writing on the wall and are 1)trying to educate others at the expense of being mocked by those you are trying to help and 2) recognizing the need to prepare for what we believe is coming.

I have come to the conclusion that staying in the city is not advisable. Even if you don't know where you'll go if you are in a big city I think getting out will be the best option. The other night our electricity went out for 20 minutes and the neighbors were actually out in the street yelling about it! If they are going to freak out about not having tv for a few minutes then I can only imagine how they'll be without the essentials. While it unnerving to realize how soon this is needed, I am thankful for the heads up we have received in regards to timing.

United- thanks for the videos. They are great. There is a part of me that has known that things are not what they have seemed, and so I am relieved and horrified when I discover the truth behind the lies.

One site I have found that I wanted to share is RestoretheRepublic.net . It is a group formed from the Aaron Russo Freedom to Fascism movement.

Also, I am trying to figure out a way to spread the oathkeepers website. I think the more local police/former military we can communicate with the better. They might not understand it now but there will come a time when they are asked to do something that they know in their gut is wrong, and then they might remember what was shared with them. What do you all think?

That's all for now.

Secure

Has anybody questioned what the hell is really going on with the Somalian pirates. I found some info last night that stated that they are not actually pirates. They are concerned citizens. They claim that corporations are dumping nuclear waste off the coast of Somalia. I don't know how true it is at this point and will continue researching it. Some questions do arise though. Why are we tip toeing around this? If they are "just" pirates that want ransom money, why aren't the pirates on the life raft with the captain already dead? We know we have the technology to take them out without even spraying a drop of blood on the captain.

Re:Bird Flu ("A" Virus, Avian Flu) Does it not seem like the most logical way to implement their entire agenda on us in one simple move? If this is their plan, the cities will be death zones! Pending on the way the virus is released, No place on earth will be completely safe! Like I said, they will make us come crawling to them for help after they infect us with a death sentence. Lets demand answers NOW! If they don't comply, we F them up! Why not? We are already the walking dead!

hi everybody...
I don't have anything new to add but thought I would say hello, and let ya'll know that I am still alive just very much under the weather....have so very little strength and a lot to do between now and tea party day, so I've been trying to get some rest. take care and I'll be back around later.

NUZZ

Keep fighting nuzz dont get discouraged.
snatch whats the best shotgun round out there. ive bought mad slugs 00 buck and just picked up a 100 pack of birdshot.

Its been old news but i just found out that blogging sites have to turn in their records to the feds soon???????
WTF!!

Re: J

I also have a .22 rifle and 12 guage shotgun. I 've got about 500 .22 rounds
and 200 2 3/4 buckshot shells. I hope not to need anymore ammo than what i already have but it give me peace of mind to know that I'm not totally defensless if TSHTF.

My .22 is scoped and I'm not a bad shot at distance. You may be surprised the amount of damage a .22 bullet can do even at 50 yards. I took the regular stock of my shotgun and installed a pistol grip for close firing situations.

I know some of my neighbors are armed too. How willing they are to fight, I don't know yet, but I will be talking to all of them very soon.

Hopefully we will never have to fire a shot!

Solo.

hey yall i will leave plenty of dropped once weapons layin all around for you for the takin. most of them will have ammo though you might need to search a stiff. and a lot of them will be better than 1500 dollar ars as they will be m-4 mp5s saws heavy machine guns ect.

give war a chance

.22s are great. They can go into the skull and won't come out the other end; bouncing around until all brain matter is pudding. Never underestimate ANY firearm.

My family is in the same boat as all of you. We can't afford much else. I've had my glock since 2005 and owe anohter $200 on my Benelli Nova before we can "own" it. After the wife gets trained on light bird shot at the range and moves up to 00, we'll pick up another one.

We're trying to keep all our firearms the same gauge, too. If we buy another hand gun, it will be another .40 cal and 12 gauge shotty.

I'd like to be able to pick up a couple AR-15s, but it's doubtful unless something happens to fatten out bank accounts...I mean, cash reserves.

We have about 2 months worth of ford stored. We buy up canned goods every time we're at the store to add to the stock. We haven't gotten to gardening yet, but really need to do so.

We're just preparing for the worst and praying it will not come any time soon. We have family with land and more gun stores than us. Our main point will be to fight to survive until we can get there. 10+ hour drive if the interstates aren't blocked off.

Re: Stand United

Well, I've been thinking of where I would want to be in a city, should a crisis occur. We don't know what the crisis will be, so we can't plan on a protective location for a particular threat. The reason we would want out of the city and into the "hills" are formed by what we do know; and we know what people will become when desperation sets in. I know you are already aware of this so I'm not telling this to you as much as I am confirming our thoughts. With that being said. If I were in a large city when something took place. An older, multiple story building that would look like a "last resort" would probably be my first choice. A basement accessed storm sewer would be a plus.

OMG........ I JUST NOW HEARD THAT BIRD FLU VIDEO. DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE BANK ONE. I HAD ALREADY LISTENED TO IT BUT GLAD I DECIDED TO PLAY IT AGAIN. THATS SCARY SHI- BUT I KNOW THEY ARE PLANNING IT. WISH WE COULD RELEASE IT ON THEM. I SUGGEST EVERYBODY STOCK UP ON THICK PLASTIC AND DUCT TAPE AND DONT FORGET THE AIR VENTS.

Recent Videos Added:

Taxday 09
Crime of the Century - End the Fed
End the Fed featuring Ron Paul
Bird Flu Distributed by Dept of Homeland Security

We are currently getting ready for the Tea Party. Warnthepeople.org will be on auto pilot from this Tuesday-Thursday. If you are unable to make the event another way to protest is by not going to work on April 15th. Lets send a message and more importantly, let's slow down their plans to allow us more time to wake up more people.

Plan for the best and prepare for the worst.

Thanks United, just trying to help in a way I know I can.....Here's an idea.

If you had access to many compressed "air" cylinders, you could in theory, use them to maintain a pressure exceeding atmospheric. This would not allow any airborne pathogen into ones "somewhat sealed environment". Pending on the release method, wind, humidity, etc...It may work long enough to get through the danger. Just a thought.

It's Tea Time!

One of the things I have noticed by watching footage of previous tea parties is that when protesters are approached by the media as to why they are there protesting, many do not know how to articulate the true purposes of the rally or be able to offer an alternate solution to the Fed.

There are a couple of things we should all know about the Fed as we prepare for the Tea Party.

The Problem
#1 The Fed is a Cartel system and a ponzi scheme.
#2 The Fed is unconstitutional : See article 1 section 10 making the fed illegal by nature
#3 They meet in secret and are above the law.

The Solution
#1 Abolish the Fed
#2 Give the power of our money back into the hands of the Treasury Department,
#3 Back our currency by Gold or Silver making it impossible to print more money than our reserve of gold or silver, which by its very nature will reduce if not eliminate the pork spending.
#4 Support HR 1207 which makes the Fed accountable for their actions and gives much needed transparency so the hidden agenda is exposed.

Side Note:
The government keeps spending, leaving us in a financial hole, I think we can all agree will be so big that, we will never get out of it. So, what does this mean?
Well, this country is in extreme debt to China and China is trying to get rid of the $dollar. Could it be that the goal of the politicians is to make the monetary system collapse as soon as possible , so they can implement the new currency we have all talked about "The Amero"

Then what?
They will sell this idea to the American people as a solution, making it seem like it was there idea to back the new monetary system by gold or silver like our founding fathers had intended, like its there damn idea.

The fact we will become a NAU with Canada and Mexico will not seem that bad anymore because of the dire straits we will all be in financially, while they continue to screw around with our money and our jobs.

Create a bad situation to make there real agenda seem like a good idea and the sheeple will follow.

We will be passing out flyers regarding this philosophy at the Tea Party.

If anyone has any other suggestions, please send them today. I will be on no sleep mode until our return from the Tea Party.

The Fed IS the head of the serpent, we are the sword!

United!

What's going on T.C.?

learn how to become a critical thinker and question everything you see and hear. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

Goodluck to all of you in the months ahead....

Tc

Re: TC

United is right. Don't let them scare you. You are doing nothing wrong. If it's becoming a crime to discuss concerns regarding your country, your freedom, ways to prepare for a crisis, or waking people up, why would we back down now? Obviously we are getting somewhere. They are not arresting us because we are not criminals and they know it! They are trying to scare us into folding. It's harrassment if anything. I will not live as a prisoner or slave. I will stand up for this cause till the end! DO YOU HERE ME DHS?!!! I'M STILL HERE!!!!!! I'M STILL HERE!!!! (I was screaming that last part)

Re: C. Evans

Would you care for a spot of tea?

tea time everybody, tea time!

hi...

well so far my e-mails with the hyperlink to this website are going thru just fine...but thats not to say that some censoring is not happening.
maybe I didn't have enough info in the e-mails....I am going to have a hyperlink to this website in my e-mails from now on and see if they do start censoring them.

maybe because i had stated that it was a test they let it go thru?????i don't trust anything any more. I don't put anything past the government and thier decietful ways.
till later all,
nuzz

NEED YOUR OPENIONS........... SHOULD WE TAKE OUR CHILDREN TO THE TEA PARTY?

One hour til Tea Time. Leaving hotel now.
Will take lots of pictures! I will report back when we return on Thursday, possibly Friday. Good luck everyone. Spread the word and let "them" know that we know and we aren't going away!

Stand United!

hope you all know that where i said good lick...its suppose to be good LUCK

Haven't heard from prater lately?? Hey Prater, you out there?

-United

United,

Glad to hear your back safe.

To All,

Well, as I try to get the pics from my camera to the computer I figured I would share a bit about what took place yesterday at the tea Party. There were an estimated 6000 people there and our group of 6 people passed out over 2000 flyers and we spent a lot of time just talking with people. Few had any idea of what was really going on but there were some, which was refreshing to encounter. Almost everyone we talked to though, were VERY receptive to what we had to say. In addition to the warn the people flyer, I put a flyer together with lots of information on why to abolish the Fed and how to replace it. We had people reading every bit of it and seeking us out, asking if they could have another one or to ask questions. Our signs displayed support HR 1207, End the Fed and the one everyone kept asking to take a picture of was the sign that read Ponzi Scheme + Cartel = Tyranny. It drew a lot of questions which opened the door to real conversation! While there, we saw family people with infants, we talked to some looking to join efforts with others via the net, defendourfreedoms.us had flyers and wanted signs with obama/Saetoro's face plastered on them, Campaign for Liberty and several others I will make a list of later. We sat and talked to Veterans, old, young, disabled, the poor, the middle class, the awake, the sheeple, you name it. REAL PEOPLE! The overall experience was phenomenal. Everyone of them, whether they had the real facts or not were there to make a difference, because they CARE! One of the overall needs of our movement is to get people to move together towards a common goal. Lots of small groups all over the place but they're not uniting. This was discussed in length with a few people yesterday and our efforts will be very focused on this goal as we move forward. It's people's fear on the net. Do we join up with these guys, maybe its big brother? Are they who they say they are and so forth. We are not doing anything wrong and people need to start realizing that we are merely exercising our 1st ammendment right and nothing else. What are we asking for on this website? To remain a Sovereign Nation, Abolish the Fed because it goes against the very principles this country was founded on, truth about obama's citizenship, to stop spraying us, I mean what can be argued here?? They already admit belonging to Secret Societies and we can see them bowing before other country's kings. What is so enlightening about the information here? A good portion of it is MSM! Glen Beck can spout off about FEMA camps but we can't? Fear cannot control our actions. The truth must be told if we are to change anything. We love this Country and are defending the U.S. Constitution! I will cower to no one while doing so! There will be changes to the site reflecting a proactive approach to these principles. I encourage everyone to get involved wherever there are people trying to make a difference. Tell the right people and they may spread it to a thousand more! If it can make a difference before shtf what a blessing it would be! If not well, we just have that many more exercising their 2nd ammendment right if it does.

All in all, the Tea Party movement is a great place to talk to people, they truly listened! Very encouraging.

-United!

IT DOES MAKE YOU FEEL REAL PROUD TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WE DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID OF. IT WAS THE AGENDA ALL ALONG TO MAKE US FEAR EACH OTHER..IN ORDER TO SEPERATE US.

I HAVE TO SAY " K U D O S " TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON OVER THE ENTIRE NATION....ALL THE 200,000 PLUS PEOPLE GATHERED TOGETHER AND NOT ONE PROBLEM, NO VIOLENCE, NO YELLING AT EACH OTHER NO FIGHTING, OR AT LEAST I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING.....AND ""THEY"" THOUGHT WE WERE SUCH MISBEHAVED LITTLE SMERFS.
YOU SEE...THIS SECRET IS OUT NOW, PEACEFUL PROTEST...hmmmm IT DOES NOT GO DOWN IN A NEGATIVE WAY UNLESS THE SHADOW ELITE GOVERNMENT IS IN CHARGE.....ITS BEEN THEM AND ALL THEM AND NOTHING ELSE BUT THEM....ALL THE TIME.

I TELL YOU WHAT....ANY ONE WHO WAS AFRAID TO COME FORWARD FOR THIS CAUSE BECAUSE OF FEAR OF RIDICULE....THEY ARE NOW FEELING A COURAGE TO STAND UP BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE SUPPORT THAN A LOT OF THEM THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE.

OUR POSITIVE ENERGYS HAVE RELEASED IN SUCH NUMBERS YESTERDAY...ITS LIKE THE DAMN FINALLY BROKE...AND THE WATERS ARE GONNA FLOW.

WE ARE A GREAT ,WONDERFUL, PEOPLE.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!

i LOVE YOU ALL, AND i LOVE THIS LAND.

WE ARE ABOUT TO CREST THIS MOUNTAIN....THANK YOU GOD, THANK YOU.

NUZZELFUT :)

Re: Nuzz

Someone's fired up! ME TOO! 1 Million is a big number and I'm determined to make it 2 Million hell why stop there! It would be hard to put into words how well the tea party went. We woke a lot of people up! Website traffic has increased since the event and have had a few sign ups from Northern CA.

This is great momentum to build on. Even people that do not know about the NWO or much of what is really going on can see that something is terribly wrong. There was anger, sadness, determination and fear at these rallies. Everyone there concerned about their futures and that of this Great Nation. The Power is truly with the people! We can regain our freedoms but only if we STAND UNITED!

SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!

Here's a link to a blog re: the Census. Check out the first comment from someone working for the Census Bureau stating they tell us everything they could without breaking the oath they took when hired. What F**king Oath??? Trying to find it now.

-United!

The Link:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/89863

Let us all Stand United on April 19th and support the Oath Keepers movement. I know we can not all go to the event but we can stand in spirit with our fellow countrymen and declare ourselves Oath Keepers and defenders of the U.S. Constitution!

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
From: (http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm)

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

HERE ARE THE ORDERS OATH KEEPERS WILL NOT FOLLOW:

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY

Click text above to read full length version.

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control.”

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

Of course this and much more can be found at:
http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/

I have already made this commitment but will do it formerly on April 19th. Left hand on the Bible, Right hand raised, I will make the commitment to defend this Great Nation by any means available to defend her. This commitment is unwavering and the determination to restore our freedoms will never fade.
I state, here and now that I fully realize the magnitude of trouble we are all facing and refuse to take it lying down. Expose their agenda, seek truth, warn the masses and UNITE! I love this Country, we have to restore it, we just have to!

PLEASE SUPPORT THE OATH KEEPERS MOVEMENT ON APRIL 19th. Take the oath! We may not all be a part of the military but WE ARE PATRIOTS!! WE HAVE OUR DUTY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

-UNITED!

RE: United.....

I'm with you all the way....Stewart Rhodes has actually extended an invitation to everyone , includes civilians, to join in on sunday for the Oath....they are doing this at 12:00 noon from what i can remember....it's in combination with another Tea Party on the 19th, and even if we are at home alone we should stand up and recite the oath out loud as affirmation that we are committed to this.In verbalizing it it will go out into the universe and the energy will travel and grow....just as it has and did on the 15th, they say that they are expecting about 2000 to gather for this sunday...but I bet it's double that////any one care to wager?

HEY ..UNITED,
please we need to stay on top of the 'AMERICAN GRAND JURY' call to action....this is one very positive force that we can expand on and help it to grow to 1000 grand jury's nation wide.

can you imagine 1000 seperate indictments being presented to an official somewhere in this country all at once.and actually it could be more than that.....the on line grand jury can consist of 25 people from 25 different jurisdictions and each one can present a packet for the ONE indictment for the one jury at that particular conveening.

What a mind boggleing thought.

somebody, somewhere, will step up and take the bull by the horns....if we as citizens just take a little time to excercise another one of our rights that they hid from us again......

The frickin GOV. Officials really suck a big green donkeys D*CK...don't they???

well I'm off to another webpage.
just stopped by to see what was going on in here...i'LL BE BACK

nuzz

I have tried and tried to get my pictures off of my camera onto the computer and I get just about half way which isnt even close to the tea party pics and they won't show up! i took it down to the local camera shop and he asked me if the battery went dead while trying to upload them and sure enough it did and is the reason for the problem and the pics most likely are lost for good. He gave me a program that might help and I am seeing what I can do to share them with all of you. We took over 300 pics! Well, back to the drawing board.

RE NUZZ:

I agree with you 100% Nuzz. The website is starting to run away from us a bit. Hard to keep up with the volume. I promise we will roll out another call to action this week for The American Grand Jury. We can not lose sight of this, I think it has real potential to make a HUGE difference. We are working on changes to the site to reflect what we are involved in. Will update soon.

-United!

New videos have been added to the People's Playlist. Become an Oath Keeper May 19th!

QUOTE BY CICERO

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious.But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

Well much of my last post didnt come through. Too long I suppose. I'll just sum up the last part for you.

You are all amazing people. I want to personally thank each and every one of you for defending your freedom and that of my children. For that I am eternally grateful.

God Bless You All

-United!

GOOD MORNING!!!!

RE: UNITED,

DITTO !

I'm not sure who has come across this yet but infowars has an article regarding the F.B.I. spying on protesters at the Tea Party. There were several men in suits at the protest in Sacramento that I saw first hand. They were collecting flyers from around the protest area. Now, being at the Capitol, my first reaction to there presence was that they work in the building and no big deal but even then I had my suspicions. Now today I see this article and it really put things into perspective for me. One of them had sneered at a flyer he got from one of the protesters there and made some kind of crude comment like "look at this shit" (paraphrasing). Again I thought well maybe he's a guy that works here that happens to be a democrat or something. We were so busy talking to people and handing out flyers I guess I didn't think much of it, but the thought crossed my mind.
Remember that post I wrote regarding emotions?! Well I'm MAD, no no BEYOND MAD! They are trying to scare us from peacefully displaying our utter disgust of the actions of this make-shift government!! We have the right to speak our mind and to protest and to question our "leaders" IT'S OUR DUTY!! Anyways, here's the link. I think I'll go learn how to meditate or something!!

http://www.infowars.com/source-fbi-spied-on-tea-party-protesters-nationwide/

-United!

Great Work Shadow. Thank you for this update! We will send a Call to Action to all of our members and see how much we can light up that switchboard!!

We Have The Momentum! Let's Keep It Going!

-United!

Just wondering what happened to the two Urgent Fema Update with Timeline videos?

I appreciate all responses. Thank you.

Re: United

Thanks, I tried that, it says "no longer available" - Censorship?

Honestly United, my "spidey-senses were tingling" when I saw the first video, and "Chad" looked like he'd just had a few beers. Why would FEMA, during a covert op like educating local law enforcement on their intentions, "leave the door open" so some guy who was applying for a job as a police officer could overhear? You would think at least they would conduct their affairs in the bowels of the building and not by the front desk. Furthermore, if you were gonna break open wide something of this magnitude, wouldn't you go to great lengths to hide your identity? Ever see "The Antiterrorist"? The guy wears a ski mask, dark shades, voice changer, and its a tight shot with no visible walls or anything to I.D. him. Things that make ya go hmmmm!

I finally came across and old e-mail invite from Jprater(godshiredgun) where he was at tea party patriots website.
he's got a profile page over there and so i joined and left him a message that we were all worried about what the heck had happened to him....so lets see if he shows up to post something.

i gotta go right now but i'll check back.

Nuzz

Have not posted here in a while but this is worth posting. My girlfriend had this dream that she needed to tell me. She lives in NYC and doesnt share my insight into everything thats going on. Her dream was that everything was in chaos and people were going door to door in her apartment building killing and rounding up people. She decided to play dead and they left her alone. She went down to the street to find that things were on fire and bodies were all over. She described big greyhound type buses with blacked out tinted windows taking people somewhere. She says that there was also a video with a masked person telling people to go to a certain place. For some reason she thought it was fake and found this African american woman and her baby crying , and convinced them to hide with her. For some reason "they" found out where she was hiding and the last thing she remembers is two of these buses closing in on her from opposite sides of the street. she also mentioned them collecting tires and hanging them around(???)

Let me just say that I do speak to her about the NWO, but never to this extent. Ive never told her about plans to kill 90% of the population how they are going to round people up into camps none of it!. I was chilled to the bone. I cannot stress enough how out of tune she is with all of this(my fault). she had no reason to dream this. Im just wondering why at this point in time would she have a dream like this. Just think that i had to tell someone this.

yea shadow it bugged me out. i dont know what to think. I live in upstate NY around albany, I think ur the closest to me that ive seen on this forum even though its still pretty far. What tips can you offer me so i can prepare my Gf and her family to defend themselves. She cant own a gun in NYC but what could i tell her. Knives, machetes? etc.. What sort of plan do u think there should be regarding getting out of a big city?.
Also whats the best gun u recommend from the $200-300 range. I want to add another firearm but dont know what it should be. I have a .22 rifle and 12 guage. no pistol permit.

Re: J

As I have shared, I am in a big city. I ask myself this question everyday. I have 50% custody of 2 kids, makes it difficult to up and leave. The real answer to your question and its a tough one, but if you think you are safer outside of the big city then the best plan would be to go as soon as possible. Waiting for something to happen I believe, is not a very good plan. Best chance of survival is to be as far away from heavy populated areas as you can. If you wait to the last second, Scope out where you will go beforehand, have a destination mapped out. Hide supplies, weapons, ammo, food,water.... where you are going beforehand if possible, you might be there for a while. Prepare accordingly. I am saving as fast as I can for a 12 gauge, they are cheap and I don't have to take the handgun test required. Also considering a 9mm. I don't want to be the guy that wishes he had prepared more. You can not prepare your family too much, so I say go for it.